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BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 30, 2014 - 12:56pm PT

Private business may now deny certain benefits to some employees solely because of a difference of religious beliefs.

It should not matter if it's "religious" beliefs or "personal" beliefs!
If i offer something out there for sale, i should have the right to refuse service. Solely on the condition "I say so", i'm the owner.

If a diner wants to only serve whites, let'em. Who wants to eat what only whites eat anyway?lol. Seriously once word gets out they'll prolly loose business! Business marketing is made to cater to a certain market. Maybe you should be more concerned with the people who want to go to a whites only diner. Instead of restrictions, how about educating?

You know there are lots of schools and universities that only allow blacks to enroll. What's up with that?

How much should the government be allowed to dictate moral regulation?
My opinion they shouldn't be in the private sector. Government should only be allowed moral regulating in the government sponsored public jobs and spaces.Period.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 30, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
My opinion they shouldn't be in the private sector.
Think about it. This is precisely what the Supreme Retards have done.
Of course if your ox isn't being gored why would you see it that way?
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 30, 2014 - 01:47pm PT
^^^What's ur reasoning they should regulate in the private sector?
mind you i'm only talk'in morally.

Are you trying to push your morals onto me?

And how much should they be allowed to "morally" will my children in grade school? Teaching evolution being the origin of man is an opinion! NOT proven! You want to take out the opinion of a Creator, but you want to keep your opinion in? The government also hands out condoms in schools to minors. This comes from the school who is teaching them everything they know, who infact when handing them a rubber are saying, "Go ahead and fuc, jus do it safely". Then if the rubbers didn't work, the school will take the minor girl to get a free abortion without notifying the parents.

Is this the kind of government you want?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 30, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
If a diner wants to only serve whites, let'em.

did you really think before you said that, Blu?

do you not understand that a "public diner" is in business to serve the "public"?

that the diner makes its profits from customers coming to on on public roads?

that the diner gets its water, gas, and electricity from public utilities?


please try to understand what you are saying should be legal, you are saying the business should be free to refuse service to anyone, Jews, Whites, Blacks, Handicapped people, people with short hair,
Catholics, anyone they want to

is that the America you want to go BACK in time to, Blu?
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 30, 2014 - 02:16pm PT

it's not a public bus transport. It's a privately ran diner.

If you had an open mind you'de see the logic..

So what do you have to say about the blacks only schools? i don't see any whites only? THen what about Ladies boutiques that wont cut a mans hair?
Or what about men's only spas?

When is bigotry, discrimination, segregation, separation, what ever you want to call it, ok and not ok with you?
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 30, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
American Christianity in government, Uganda style.
The video is worth following to the end.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/30/john-oliver-uganda-anti-gay-laws_n_5543403.html
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 30, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
non-sequitur again

Without the 1st Amendment if the Christian Extremists had their way we'd still be throwing homosexuals in prison instead of marrying them.

Someday we will have a Muslim President. I hope you're around to see it. I wonder if you'll cringe.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 30, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
Someday we will have a Muslim President.

i wouldn't dow't if someday we have a lesbein muslim with wings and a tail!
^that was my Bill Maher again. But that British guy in the vid is pretty funny.
He stated that there are 81 country's that have laws against homosexuality. That's alot! America has showed the world that we are infact not a "christian" nation because we have passed laws allowing same sex marriage. If christians were controlling gov. that law would have never passed. So chalk one up for "Freedom" what this country was founded on! But most other countrys aren't like us.. Most of them have culture and long historys of religious preference. Its hard to have an opinion on them with not many facts.

Whats really interesting to me is how this one guy, this "American Christian" can go to a country like Uganda and stir up this many bee's, then the finger gets pointed at "The Americans" or "The Christians" like All Americans have the opinion as him. Or All Christians have the same opinion.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jun 30, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
Freedom of Religion now includes imposing your views on some else. Great constitutional interpretation.

I bet the Kock Bros. Drove this in the background.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Jun 30, 2014 - 08:18pm PT
“Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.

I pity the poor immigrant
Who wishes he would’ve stayed home
Who uses all his power to do evil
But in the end is always left so alone
That man whom with his fingers cheats
And who lies with ev’ry breath
Who passionately hates his life
And likewise, fears his death

I pity the poor immigrant
Whose strength is spent in vain
Whose heaven is like Ironsides
Whose tears are like rain
Who eats but is not satisfied
Who hears but does not see
Who falls in love with wealth itself
And turns his back on me

I pity the poor immigrant
Who tramples through the mud
Who fills his mouth with laughing
And who builds his town with blood
Whose visions in the final end
Must shatter like the glass
I pity the poor immigrant

When his gladness comes to pass


zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Jun 30, 2014 - 09:48pm PT
Either T or Doc Evil.


Degaine

climber
Jul 1, 2014 - 12:32am PT
sketch wrote:
It's sad that so many Americans seem think if Christian leaders had their way, we'd have a society as repressive as 1930s Germany.


No need invoke Godwin, I personally don't see any indication we're headed down the road to Nazi Germany.

That written, you've never been to the South, have you? I have family who lived in Missouri for a while, cousins who spent part of their elementary school years there (in the 80s). One had teacher - at a public school - who passed out bibles at the beginning of the year and indicated that it was required reading and that their grades depended on it.

Government institutions should not be forcing religion down anyone's throat in that manner. What about that don't you get?
Degaine

climber
Jul 1, 2014 - 12:35am PT
Blueblocr wrote:
Whats really interesting to me is how this one guy, this "American Christian" can go to a country like Uganda and stir up this many bee's, then the finger gets pointed at "The Americans" or "The Christians" like All Americans have the opinion as him. Or All Christians have the same opinion.


I agree that one should not make sweeping generalizations about any group or supposed group based upon the actions of one person.

The irony in your above statement is that you have made plenty of sweeping generalizations about "liberals" and "the left" time and time again based on one or two opinions in here or on the acts of one or two politicians.

Care to retract your past statements?
Degaine

climber
Jul 1, 2014 - 09:57am PT
Wow Sketch, even when someone agrees with you, you get ornery an confrontational. You must be a real blast a parties.

Not a myth, cousins in Missouri, and my wife (before I met her of course) in Tulsa, OK.

But unlike others in here, I really don't care if you choose to face facts or not.

Cheers.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 1, 2014 - 10:25am PT

Care to retract your past statements?

i feel pretty good about what i've said. although i do have an openmind to learn. Got something to teach?
Degaine

climber
Jul 1, 2014 - 11:43pm PT
Sketch,

Me agreeing with you was stating that there's no need to invoke the Nazi's (or Uganda, or whatever other violent dictatorship).

Cheers.
Degaine

climber
Jul 1, 2014 - 11:45pm PT
blueblocr wrote:
i feel pretty good about what i've said. although i do have an openmind to learn. Got something to teach?


So what you are stating is that it's okay when you make sweeping generalizations, but not okay when others making sweeping generalizations (especially when it comes to you're pet issues)?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers.
go-B

climber
Cling to what is good!
Jul 3, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
God is soo goood He deserves a promotion! :)
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 3, 2014 - 09:01pm PT
God is good. Good at setting babies on fire and giving people ass cancer.
go-B

climber
Cling to what is good!
Jul 6, 2014 - 04:51am PT


Don't want to leave this out...

and it's open!"...


John 6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

...snap, crackle, pop!
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