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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2014 - 07:40am PT
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Not just western religion....nearly all religions have an existential drive to impose their beliefs on others. So much human misery down through the ages has, and continues, to be the end result.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 22, 2014 - 08:02am PT
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This thread is proof positive of pure stupid people who think just by running their stupid mouths it means something.
If it is that simple you could conquer death.
Instead this thread is nothing but dead stupid corpses running their mouths against life itself .....
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2014 - 08:20am PT
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Ron, those women you are describing are suffering BECAUSE of religious beliefs.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 22, 2014 - 08:22am PT
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Exactly, donini. Your stance is the opposite of nonsense.
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jstan
climber
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Jun 22, 2014 - 08:59am PT
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What is the characteristic of a software bug? It goes on and on past all understanding. Why? Eventually the bug proves to be something, not true, that is not questioned.
So it is with things like this thread. Here the bug is right there in Jim's OP. Look at any thread where someone denies that another person is a christian and the bug is apparent.
People cannot agree as to what christian is.
In the face of that failure, trying to say our nation or anything is " not christian" is fatally flawed. And pointless.
Take any of the endless discussions like this and look for the "bug". Try it.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 22, 2014 - 09:15am PT
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Hero worshipping speed climbers bores me.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2014 - 09:27am PT
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Yep...climbing is intrinsically boring except for the participants.
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jstan
climber
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Jun 22, 2014 - 10:13am PT
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Hero worshipping speed climbers bores me.
With one exception, speed climbing and climbing in general is boring, for Jim's reason.
The exception?
Imagine for a moment that Alex is explaining how he would propose to approach the Social Security issue. Alex is very believable. Because he is even handed. He is even handed because he is sensitive to others.
Would you believe him? I would.
I can't watch him solo. Based upon the potential loss to us all, the risks are unsupportable. Totally unsupportable.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jun 22, 2014 - 10:50am PT
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Damn.... I Just got done writing a bit on a couple of posters....
turns out after proofreading the bit I was just as full of sh#t as that I was pointing out about the other poster...
So I deleted it
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Jun 22, 2014 - 11:17am PT
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...the real mom wants the best for her child!
I would imagine that everyone on this thread would agree.
The problem you face is that not everybody here agrees that a single fertilized cell that has better than 50% chance it will be naturally and spontaneously aborted (miscarriage) is a "child."
The World Health Organization states that the majority of miscarriages present no symptoms and occur unknown to the woman. I've posted the link somewhere upthread or on another similar thread. I'm not going to look it up again. The WHO's studies indicate that upwards of 70% of pregnancies self-terminate within the first trimester.
Sorry, go-B, but I just can't get my mind around calling a festering blob of cells, that most of the time the body is about to eject on its own, a "child."
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jun 22, 2014 - 12:09pm PT
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...the real mom wants the best for her child!
 Go-B - Statement of Myth - On the face of it this statement may be true, we certainly hope its true of all mothers... But the reality of it is that there are mothers who birth children then turn their backs on them.
Some moms best ends up with the kid at the bottom of a lake or bathtub or even crib... So, were these Unreal moms? Or is this just a different example of Mom's best?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
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Would you believe him? I would.
Yea, what about when your hero tells you he had a little run into with The Lord.
And now he's decided to devote his entire life to Jesus. Would you believe him then?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
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^€€ We'll all find out soon enough...
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jstan
climber
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Jun 22, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
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BB:
I was responding to your post but discovered Locker had already done the job very nicely.
Your response to Locker is overtly aggressive and resembles a fight in the third grade when someone shouts, "My dad can beat up your dad!".
I suggest you have a sit down with Jesus.
Tx Locker.
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Degaine
climber
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Jun 23, 2014 - 12:26am PT
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Blueblocr wrote:
Mad-B, Do YOU really think you're able to speak for God on what He considers the "Rights" of man?
Blueblocr wrote:
i do believe in the rights of men in a free state.
Both bolds by me.
Unlike you, I believe that women have rights, too. Equal rights.
I'll throw your question right back at you: do YOU really think you're able to speak for GOD on what SHE considers?
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7SacredPools
Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
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Jun 23, 2014 - 05:07am PT
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Of course BB and GB know what God thinks. All great minds think alike.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 23, 2014 - 06:13am PT
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Unlike you, I believe that women have rights, too. Equal rights.
when i use the term "man" it automatically means boys and girls.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 23, 2014 - 11:11am PT
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Let man and woman be joined together to become as ONE; Mankind; Man.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 23, 2014 - 11:14am PT
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Let males decide what females can and cannot do with their own bodies.
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