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BLUEBLOCR

Social climber

joshua tree

Jun 10, 2014 - 11:22pm PT

Everyone knows that a woman's body has a way of shutting' that sorta thing down don't ya know

Hmmm. if a womans body knows to shut down when there is an unwanted pregnacy. Then if a woman decides to have an abortion when her body is clearly going through with it.

isn't that breaking somebodys law, or atleast moral?

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Jun 11, 2014 - 07:29am PT

Dingus Christ has compelled you to post a tr on rock climbing.

Tvash

climber

Seattle

Jun 11, 2014 - 11:33am PT

"^^^ well i was a rape baby. my dad was 21, and my mom was 16. i consider that rape.Sure glad abortion wasn't legal back in 63. My moms family was soo distrought, i know my grandpa would have aborted me. But i turned out to be his favorite.

Do you know How many pregnacies happen through rape?"

Now THERE's a strong argument in favor of rape babies.

Ladies? Oh wait...

Lollie

Social climber

I'm Lolli.

Jun 11, 2014 - 05:03pm PT

Everyone knows that a woman's body has a way of shutting' that sorta thing down don't ya know

[profanity alert] jesuus f*#king christ. Is he out of his mind?

HighTraverse

Trad climber

Bay Area

Jun 11, 2014 - 05:07pm PT

Todd Akin's certainly not out of his mind.
He's got God on his side

Akin earned a Master of Divinity degree in 1984 from Covenant Theological Seminary where he studied Greek, Hebrew, and a socially conservative interpretation of the Christian scriptures. He did not enter the ministry.[10]

Akin is a longtime pro-life activist and former member of the board of Missouri Right to Life.[11] He was arrested for trespass at least eight times between 1985 and 1988 while demonstrating against abortion in front of abortion clinics in Illinois and Missouri.

Lollie

Social climber

I'm Lolli.

Jun 11, 2014 - 05:10pm PT

Are you sure?
She is a woman and she's black.

:-D

thebravecowboy

climber

in the face of the fury of the funk

Jun 11, 2014 - 06:16pm PT

Thanks, HT, for the Akin clarification.

And no, Blue, I don't wish you away. Was your folks' procreative act consensual?

Skeptimistic

Mountain climber

La Mancha

Jun 11, 2014 - 06:29pm PT

Sure glad abortion wasn't legal back in 63.

Yes, because it never happened when it was illegal...

go-B

climber

Cling to what is good!

Jun 11, 2014 - 09:09pm PT

...everything next to God is just second best!

clinker

Trad climber

Santa Cruz, California

Jun 11, 2014 - 10:31pm PT

well i was a rape baby. my dad was 21, and my mom was 16. i consider that rape.

I hope you weren't being trivial, the aftermath of rape is hideous.

Abortion for convenience is pathetic, but rape babies, that is an entirely different matter, abort.

Rape, any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person

Along with being murdered, the ultimate denial of choice. There is no going back for a person who is raped, they can go on, but will carry the scars for life. A rapist should not see the light of day.

go-B

climber

Cling to what is good!

Jun 12, 2014 - 05:28pm PT

...fer sure Jesus is coming back again and every day we're one day closer!

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber

joshua tree

Jun 12, 2014 - 10:11pm PT

^^^ is that a selfie Glanton? you sure are proud of that pic

but rape babies, that is an entirely different matter, abort.

i think that was the deciding arguement back in the 80's, Rowe vs Wade.i cant find statistics for how many rape babies since. But there have been 60 million abortions in the US since. 40% of which were 20-25yro young college educating women. These women obiviously knew what they were getting into. Maybe they didn't, if they happened to have to much Jim Beam?
So there isn't a law against abortion, but shouldn't there at least be a penalty, a fine maybe? i mean, my god we've stopped 60 million human beings from walking this life. Doesn't that feel wrong to you? Now countries are aborting just because the fetus tests to be a girl, and not a boy! Isn't that major bigotry! parents even want to abort if their fetus is diagnosed with Autism. But just to abort because you forgot protection, that deserves a spanking! or at LEAST a fine!

i was conceived from my 16yro mom high from my 21yro dad's bottle of Jim Beam in the back of a 54' Chevy. i consider that a form of rape..
There's a fine line between what's consensual, and being talked into it in the final moment, and waking up the next day with regret. My parents got married because their families said it was the proper thing to do. They had 2 more girls and got divorced after 5yrs. IF i would have been aborted, they wouldn't have gotten married and had my sisters. And my sisters wouldnt have had their 3 daughters. We're all pretty happy to be alive! And so are our families.

That's why i'm against abortion. NOT by someone else's opinion. But through my own experience.

Ken M

Mountain climber

Los Angeles, Ca

Jun 12, 2014 - 11:43pm PT

my god we've stopped 60 million human beings from walking this life. Doesn't that feel wrong to you?

I find it bizarre that your ilk feel that our country would be better off with another 60 million people.

And a lot of the reason for such things is that your group absolutely forbids education regarding procreation, does everything it can to keep effective birth control out of the hands of the sexually active....

Inasmuch as your policies directly result in many many abortions, how does that make you feel??

And now you are talking about punishment for women who choose things you don't like.

Skeptimistic

Mountain climber

La Mancha

Jun 13, 2014 - 03:50am PT

my god we've stopped 60 million human beings from walking this life.

And how many women are still able to "walk this life" because they didn't have a coathanger abortion? And how many of those feti would've gone on to be a burden on society or commit crimes because they were raised in an uncaring or unhealthy environment? And how many of them would've been beaten, drugged, raped and/or murdered due to child abuse? I'm guessing that the world would've been a better place if Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot or any other maniacal dictator would've been aborted...

Part of your problem is that you believe that these aborted feti are fully cognitive functioning humans. There is no conclusive proof or consensus on when a fetus can be considered a viable human with all the rights we bestow on our citizens. The religious wrong would have us believe it is at conception because they think god says so. But I don't believe in your god and I don't want you forcing me to live my life according to your fairy tale's dicta. If you believe god is going to send you to a lake of fire for doing such, then don't do it. It's my understanding that xtians believe god is the ultimate judge and he says "judge not" blah, blah, blah. We have the right to believe what we want in this country and not be forced to adhere to a religion that is actually in the minority worldwide.

7SacredPools

Trad climber

Guelph, Ontario, Canada

Jun 13, 2014 - 04:42am PT

Millions more if you count the bombings. God is judging you, so be afraid. Be very, very afraid. Ha! :)

clinker

Trad climber

Santa Cruz, California

Jun 13, 2014 - 06:03am PT

There is no conclusive proof or consensus on when a fetus can be considered a viable human

That is why a "retro" abortion should be an option until the age of 18, to verify that viability.

"You are going on time out, and if you keep it up we are going to retro-abort you."