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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 11, 2018 - 09:06am PT
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#fakechristianconservativeliars
#republicansareinbedwithevil
not all Republicans are Nazis, but all Nazis are Republican voters
not all Republicans are racists, but all racists are Republican voters
not all Republicans are White supremacists, but all white supremacists are Republican voters
not all Republicans are fake Christians, but all Fake Christians are Republican voters
not all Republicans are Russian bots, but all Russian bots are Republican voters
not all Republicans are in cahoots Russian mobsters, but all those in cahoots with Russian mobsters are Republicans
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 11, 2018 - 09:46am PT
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Locker...LMAO...
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Feb 11, 2018 - 12:54pm PT
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#STOOPIDMINDFUKEDPARTISANLOONS
Like Donald Trump saying there were “good people on both sides” at Charlottesville.
Another stupid false equivalency.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 11, 2018 - 06:13pm PT
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Although I'm mediocre, I consider myself the greatest cornholio"
-d. Trump
So whither my followers?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Feb 12, 2018 - 12:01pm PT
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It would be cool if Patrick deleted this thread...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 12, 2018 - 12:16pm PT
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[Trump wannabee or vice versa] Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte has said women who choose to fight in the New People's Army rather than raise children should be shot in the genitals.
If ya can't grab some pussy you can at least shoot it.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Feb 12, 2018 - 12:17pm PT
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It would be cool if Patrick deleted this thread...
For sure. We definitely wouldn't want to talk about real 'things' that affect the lives of Americans, in America. Censor or stop it eh?! Kinda sounds similar to at least one of his daily tweets.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 12, 2018 - 12:21pm PT
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Feb 12, 2018 - 12:29pm PT
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For sure. We definitely wouldn't want to talk about real 'things' that affect the lives of Americans, in America.
If that were true, but it's not... it's just a circular never-ending whine-fest with occasional nasty personal attacks.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Feb 12, 2018 - 01:21pm PT
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EdwardT, in who's mind did that happen?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Feb 12, 2018 - 01:25pm PT
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it's just a circular never-ending whine-fest with occasional nasty personal attacks.
Yup as can be a lot of convos that aren't love/ball cupping fests/events. Not much substance to those IMO(of course it is IMHO but why the H, shouldn't it be implied?? I added a little whining to the thread) just agreement across the board whether true or not. I agree about personal attacks and find them lame and unproductive but we are human. Anyway, I don't post much on these threads but do peruse them and then try to find the substance on the nets. I am not any kind of political/government scholar and probably know the least, so I appreciate the arguments brought forward to try and learn myself something. There is no 'I' learn myself and that helps me to remove bias, where there is an 'I'...
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Feb 12, 2018 - 01:34pm PT
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"EdwardTroll, in who's mind did that happen? "
In the minds of the insane, faux, gerrymandered brain, alt conspiracy, findyourownfacts, deliberately ignorant, malignant narcissist, unelectoral minority, toxic moronation.
sorry I went skiing to Canada and somehow survived missing this window into the soul of political truthiness.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 12, 2018 - 02:35pm PT
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Trump has proposed to increase defense spending by $100 billion. Guess we'll need another tax cut to pay for it.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2018 - 02:55pm PT
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At what point does a patriot become a traitor, and at what point does a traitor become a patriot?
I ask this on several levels.
Another point, it has been bugging me for several days. If I do not agree with a person, for example a president, and I do not clap at his speeches (State of the Union comes to mind) and then the president says, or implies, I am a traitor for not clapping at his SOTU speech, what does that say? What does that tell?
The temerity. And he gets away with it. Some on this forum say Americans are stooppppiddd. Perhaps.
It is shameful. That such a person can accuse others for not rallying behind his very partisan and obfuscating speech and imply they are treasonous.
BULLSHOIT. Total BS. That is in not the American way, that is not what democracy is about, to be subservient to the master. that is not what I signed up for, nor my ancestors.
It sickens me, what Trump has done, is doing. And yet he has his supporters. Demagogue. I see the articles, the videos (BBC has been one source, very objective, VERY OBJECTIVE, in its coverage, a number of videos of interviews with Trump supporters and no negative or judgmental commentary, just videos to watch and see and hear why Trump supporters like the guy. Check it out. No bias, just straightforward interviews without a contrary POV in most cases.)
You know, it is sort of funny, ironic I suppose. As much as I detest Trump, in a way I was hoping he may make a difference, in some perverse way. Hoping he may make a good president (though in my gut, intuitions, I knew otherwise), but still, for the sake of the nation, I hoped.
A forlorn hope.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2018 - 03:04pm PT
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Are you sure Dingus?
So I ask you, since you have indicated to me that you do not want to talk politics in emails between us, so this is the forum for me to ask, on the particular point, did Trump have the, hmmm…
Did he have the "right" to accuse, or at least imply, that people who did not clap at his SOTU address were treasonous?
How did or does that strike you?
To me it just shows more divisiveness, more division to wedge a 'sour' point, to divide a nation. he cries for partisanship and yet most of his action defy this. That is how I see it.
Dingus, I know you do not support the guy (do you? not?). But at times you seem to want to support him by denigrating his detractors. Maybe I am wrong.
And I just to add on another note, totally different than Trump, you sure do not like the Browns, father and son. Interesting.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 12, 2018 - 03:11pm PT
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 12, 2018 - 02:35pm PT
Trump has proposed to increase defense spending by $100 billion. Guess we'll need another tax cut to pay for i
Yes, we will need another tax cut.
Not my taxes, or your taxes, but someone’s taxes. I wonder who?
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2018 - 03:21pm PT
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And Jody, so you are retired now. Besides being a darn good photographer, you are photogenic. Your avatar 'note' says Occupied Territoiry or something like that. Why not run for office if you want to change the politics of California. Despite what some may think, I think you are intelligent, just misguided and misinformed in my opinion. AND CAN BE A DOLT AT TIMES.
And headstrong. Nothing wrong with that, but not being open to other ideas is not a plus.
If you want to change California, as some of your ilk are moving out, why not run for office and see how far you can get. I mean, if Nunes can get elected, you have a chance.
Go for it.
EDIT, I have had two glasses of wine (I get paid on Mondays, a bottle of wine is one of my few luxuries every week), and in vino veritas, Jody, voters that would support you would love to have an ex-cop, pseudo-Christian, bigot, selfish candidate like you, I mean, they elected Trump. Except, he was a draft dodger, and I suspect you are not.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2018 - 03:35pm PT
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Gotcha Dingus, my mistake, as I do respect you. It will not happen again, as I appreciate your personal correspondence big time. Apologies. Sincerely, Patrick
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 12, 2018 - 03:53pm PT
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Trump's treason comment was sarcasm. He was being flippant. Do I think it's appropriate? Not at all. But given the amount of crap shovelled his way every day, it's par for the discourse.
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