No, we are not a "Christian" nation......

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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 2, 2014 - 11:42am PT
Pate!

you posted, you are back!
barry ohm

Trad climber
escondido, ca
Jun 2, 2014 - 11:42am PT
I worked on the Micron Plant in Utah years ago, Going there I was wondering how these Mormons treated outsiders. I found out their is three groups of people in Utah, Mormons, Mormon haters and people who dont care. Seems the Mormon haters are the worst group because the other twp groups of people are busy living life,
go-B

climber
Cling to what is good!
Jun 2, 2014 - 12:06pm PT

...the Bible answers that one! :)
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 2, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jun 2, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
I worked on the Micron Plant in Utah years ago, Going there I was wondering how these Mormons treated outsiders. I found out their is three groups of people in Utah, Mormons, Mormon haters and people who dont care. Seems the Mormon haters are the worst group because the other twp groups of people are busy living life,

So; Religious = bad

Religion hater = very bad

Religious hater = worst


This thread is so educational.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jun 2, 2014 - 12:43pm PT
I found out their is three groups of people in Utah, Mormons, Mormon haters and people who dont care. Seems the Mormon haters are the worst group because the other twp groups of people are busy living life,
Seriously. I don't really get all the animosity in this thread. You'd figure that people would have more compelling issues in their life than to dwell on the private beliefs of others.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Jun 2, 2014 - 12:49pm PT
Guess you're not gay.

Or don't know anyone who is.

Christian beliefs are anything but private.

Wish they were.

Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jun 2, 2014 - 01:00pm PT
^^^
That's for proving my point. I guess you're a homophobe too.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jun 2, 2014 - 01:04pm PT

I googled "What happens when you die". One of the top sites had the name "The real truth". Here's what Google's "The real truth" said:

What Does Happen?

Now let’s examine Scripture more closely. The Bible can be proven to be God’s Word, and it is His Instruction Manual to mankind. It provides all the answers necessary to enjoy a wonderful, happy and successful way of life.

First, the Bible is emphatic and clear that everyone dies: “For that which befalls the sons of men befalls beasts; even one thing befalls them: as the one dies, so dies the other; yes, they have all one breath; so that a man has no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again” (Ecc. 3:19-20). This reveals that a human being simply dies and returns to dust like any other living creature on Earth.

The Bible provides even more detail of what happens after death. Notice Psalm 146: “His [man’s] breath goes forth, he returns to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish” (vs. 4). A human being no longer thinks once he is dead; he simply is not conscious.

Now read Ecclesiastes 9: “For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten” (vs. 4-5). Again, the Bible is clear about the state of the dead.

But this leads to the age-old question asked in the book of Job: “If a man die, shall he live again?” (14:14). The second half of the verse begins to answer the question: “…all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.”

No surprise GoB mentioned Google. Is the server which is driving Google the same server as the server driving GoB? I remember someone mentioning a grand server of life...
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Jun 4, 2014 - 04:36pm PT
For anyone who is still agnostic on this question, check out how our nations justice system works.

On the one hand, a 14 yr old girl isn't old enough to consent to having sex with her 17 yr old girlfriend Kate Hunt, who needs to be punished like an adult for it.

On the other hand, two 12 yr old girls are old enough to consent to murder, and to charged as adults for the crime (www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/justice/Wisconsin-girl-stabbed).

Make sense?

Yes, we are a "Christian" nation.
go-B

climber
Cling to what is good!
Jun 8, 2014 - 05:52am PT



Deuteronomy 27:5 Moreover, you shall build there an altar to the Lord your God, an altar of stones; you shall not wield an iron tool on them. 6 You shall build the altar of the Lord your God of uncut stones, and you shall offer on it burnt offerings to the Lord your God; 7 and you shall sacrifice peace offerings and eat there, and rejoice before the Lord your God. 8 You shall write on the stones all the words of this law very distinctly.”

...I guess you could say use of uncut stones is God's way of saying don't edit His revealed Word to make it null and void! Man can make a garden, God is a wilderness! :)
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 8, 2014 - 07:44am PT
I'm glad someone brought this back to the first page....just where it belongs on Sunday!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jun 8, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
if Jesus loves me so much, why does he want me dead?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 8, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
And the Christians go crazy.....



Al Arabyia News

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 8, 2014 - 08:20pm PT

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Good! maybe by reading the quran the catholics will become a little more wiser about their history??

usher in peace??? i dont think so that wont happen for a thousand years!!!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 8, 2014 - 08:27pm PT
you say grenades. i say palm leaves.


remember the pope doesnt speak for all christians
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jun 8, 2014 - 08:30pm PT
i prefer paganism to any of the Big Three insanities\insecurities from the ME. Hinduism is OK too. that and Voodoo
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:59pm PT
I haven't see anybody mention it, but the way we know the founding fathers did not support Christianity, is that they violated the FIRST commandment, in the most public way possible, when they elevated Geo Washington to the level of a GOD.
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
Jun 10, 2014 - 09:02pm PT
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 10, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
^^^ well i was a rape baby. my dad was 21, and my mom was 16. i consider that rape.Sure glad abortion wasn't legal back in 63. My moms family was soo distrought, i know my grandpa would have aborted me. But i turned out to be his favorite.

Do you know How many pregnacies happen through rape?
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