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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 03:33pm PT
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Keep the hump alive Wes..... you got a thumby yet?
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2009 - 03:38pm PT
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Ah, ok I see re: Russ. I am still a noob.
Wolfgang Gullich, I've seen a lot of his videos on Youtube. Very impressive climber. Climbing is definitely a sport to watch and gain enjoyment.
While I do enjoy reading about it, it's much more exciting to watch and do. Moon's video is pretty good, I have to admit.
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Anastasia
Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
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Oct 28, 2009 - 05:58pm PT
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There is a new group around here, I find them to be a new species of climbers that is very strange. They look nice, smell good and a few of them even have manicures. They do climb but something about them beyond that isn't like other climbers. They make this strange clicking noises.
I think if they were being mentored by the older generation they might lose some of that annoying clicking. Beyond that there really is no difference. At least nothing significant...
We each have inherited a nature that makes us individuals. Some will respect the past and it's ethics. Some won't... This is how it's always been and always will be.
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I personally love my old group from Stoney Point. They have always been there through all my life's passages.
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2009 - 06:56pm PT
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McP-diddy - you're right. That probably is bragging. But come to think of it, climbing free on some crazy exposed rock up 200' at 5.8 after only 3 months of having no clue what trad or sport was, really IS pretty effin' good!
I don't think I'm new school or old school, kind of in between. But as the old school have said so far on this thread, it's ok to brag and whoop and act like a hotshot because that's what hotshots do and did. Not saying I'm a hotshot or anything.
Anastasia, what is this clicking noise new school makes? I'm intrigued.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 07:17pm PT
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But come to think of it, climbing free on some crazy exposed rock up 200' at 5.8 after only 3 months of having no clue what trad or sport was, really IS pretty effin' good!
Nope.... it is really not that good. Let some air out sonny....
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Oct 28, 2009 - 07:28pm PT
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He is in good company.....
I thought kids today came out of the gym after an On_The_Wall birthday party leading 5.11?
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2009 - 08:10pm PT
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My last post was a joke. P's just pissed because I don't want to listen to him so he's posting stuff from my response to his obsessive email diatribe about how I should kiss the king's ass.
Pate, while you're busy reading about history, I'm gonna be climbing so catch me up when I get back mmmkay?
Thanks, dude.
Russ, I do like you. Don't listen to him.
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2009 - 08:36pm PT
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Yikes. Pate must be having a bad day. Does Pate need a hug from the king?
Wes - I read about the rope shitting incident but forgot who it was. That's good history.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 28, 2009 - 11:19pm PT
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anastasia must be talking about the noise tweekers make sometimes when their spun!!!
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dougs510
Social climber
down south
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Oct 29, 2009 - 04:01am PT
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think.... beautiful rock formations. the smell of the rock. the birds that fly past your ledge 3 pitches up. the clean air, the trees and the whisper of the wind through the pines. then, you realize why you climb. no old school/new school. just joy! friendships bound by the love of the climb, the relationships that will last a lifetime.
Time passes, we all age, and, if we're lucky enough, we can experience the sheer joy of friendships, vertical existence, and live through some sketchy situations (personally) I've found myself in.
the best years of my life were climbing with friends from all over the world. we are a tight knit community. Join in and love it for what it is.
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2009 - 12:05pm PT
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LOL!!!?!?!?111666!!! Yea, you should probably stop trying to cram your beliefs down other people's throats. I don't want to learn about European climbing history, McDuff!
And at least the Afghanis never settle or make peace treaties with the enemy and sell out.
If you'd like a history lesson about California and the United States just let me know, though. We practice freedom of ideals and speech here.
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2009 - 12:25pm PT
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Dude, you're psycho and seriously in need of some anger management. If you want to see if I'm a coward: Bay Area. Whenever man.
Stop emailing people and telling them to kiss people's asses. Oh and stop being such a f*#kin' baby.
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Mason-
You need to check out who jstan is, his name is John Stannard. Google him and read about him, and get some real climbing books and study them. Then pay some hommage cuz yer dissin the king.
John is famous, a god. John is a prolific rock climber, he is an older guy, in his 60's. He is responsible for literally hundreds and hundreds of routes from the Gunks, Boulder, AZ and Yosemite. There is no place in this country that he did not make a significant impact on the climbing scene. He and a few others are responsible for establishing the grades 5.10 and 5.11. And that is old school 10 and 11, very very difficult climbing.
In short , John Stannard is a legend, a hero and a living link to the past.
He has lived in the J Tree area for a long time now, and has hundreds of first ascents there.
Dude, this guy has climbed w/ Bridwell, Long, Chouinard, Robbins and many many others. HE has hundreds of first ascents in J Tree and continues to put them up at high grades by the dozen.
It sounds to me like you need to concentrate on coming up the right way. You need to read about how the grades got established, how the gear and ethics got developed, and who did it. Climbing is about history and tradition.
A word of warning, most of the guys on ST are legends. The sh#t they have accomplished is super human. Have some respect. These guys climbed had in a time before the softness of the modern climbing world.
Your comments are really rude towards John. And Mister E and many others, disrespectful. SUre, hold your own, but you are coming across as a moron dude. Who gives a damn if you did your first 5.8 lead t his summer in Yose. One of these dudes probably put it up. So you need to tone it down a little and learn b listening and watching.
Not to be mean, but you are a nobody, and these guys, especially Stannard, are the reason climbing exists. You clearly have no knowledge of the history of American climbing. You don't seem to understand- THAT is what you need to know at this point, not trying to get some tips from the top. You want to converse with these guys? Be respectful, humble and get some more knwledge about the roots of our sport.
Marc Peter
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 29, 2009 - 12:36pm PT
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Afghani,
That email isn't that far off. Sure, Pate writes strong, but he's coming from a place where he knows where he is and who he's conversing with and getting to know.
There is nothing wrong with being new, but I strive to be respectful of the giants in the room no matter where I am or what field they're in. You would have to be around a long time and get a lot better to talk much sh*t that had any meaning to some of the folks around here.
Again, it's ok to be new, but all due respect, try not to be a punk.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 29, 2009 - 12:36pm PT
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I don't know about the Josh part, and I thought he lived in Santa Barbara. A little brash, but some good points which I'm sure you absorbed with your massive 5.8 wisdom. (my daughter climbed 5.8 when she was in her single digits)
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 29, 2009 - 12:42pm PT
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"(my daughter climbed 5.8 when she was in her single digits)"
Ha! My kids too.
I had a girlfriend who was leading 5.10 trad after about 4 months of climbing.....
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 29, 2009 - 12:52pm PT
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I knew a guy whose only climb was a free solo of the nakededge, naked, of course....
Okay, I made that up.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Oct 29, 2009 - 01:35pm PT
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They make cases that big?
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2009 - 02:13pm PT
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Rock climbers here are some of the biggest haters I've met. Instead of encouraging climbers, they cut them down.
That's character, I tell you.
And there's no real sh#t talking lol. I swear, this is old news. There was a joke thread about fat chicks and then JStan chastised me about it. I didn't know who he was and called him an old guy. Then Skipt broke in about Jstan's accomplishments and said I hadn't done sh#t.
There was no initial sh#t talking about climbing. It was about a fat chick thread. Seriously, know your history!
Anyway, I don't dis' the giants. And some of us didn't have the luxury of rock in the midwest plains while in our single digits. I'm into this weekend climbing thing now for four months.
Give it time.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 29, 2009 - 02:42pm PT
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I know this chick, she was leading .11c, at the creek in her first six months... Okay, she's a wackjob, but still.....
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2009 - 02:44pm PT
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And smartasses. The whole bunch of ya.
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