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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Mar 28, 2007 - 04:48pm PT
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Newsflash:
Dirtineye is still an as#@&%e.
that is all.
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Mar 28, 2007 - 05:04pm PT
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I can think of an occasion to use this rope skill.
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wootles
climber
Gamma Quadrant
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Mar 28, 2007 - 05:23pm PT
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Yeah, like on the White House lawn.
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Mar 28, 2007 - 05:29pm PT
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We'd need a lot of rope, but I agree Wootles.
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reddirt
climber
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Mar 28, 2007 - 05:48pm PT
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they're MY biners & I'll clip if I want to. ANY damn way I want to.
Silence and cowardliness aren't the same thing. Climbing might be physics, but climbing is also chemistry. Toxic climbers are no different than toxic people everywhere. Speaking from direct & indirect experience w/ chemo, there are just some malignacies that can't be cured.
What's the point in being destructive (even if correct)? Life is too short. I know for a fact there are people on this thread who have dealt with genuine near death experiences from life's objective hazards, both on & off the mountain. How they come through those experiences can wildly differ.
I didn't explicitly ask for advice. I merely used the term "arguable". People responded with differing motives... some to be didactic and some to ??? In hindsight, the arguability of my clipping was actually regarding another climb that weekend (had a brain fart in recalling the details of that trip). Until I am convinced otherwise, I'll take my biner gates facing a slab rather than facing the angled edge of a flake. And as for anyone trying to peg/denigrate the rating, I can only guess such attempts have something to do with (lack of) penis size.
I have a decent amount of faith in my climbing because I know how much doubt I have (in addition to my tendencies for the redundant, as well as my dorky tendency to see things in vectors/force diagrams)... I guess I should have honed my doubt in other so-called climbers before posting.
I originally made my post because more often than not, I have come to love doubles in my short but intense little climbing care er. Reading the original post made me recall the climb that particular climb on which I was intensely loving dbls (and a single would have sucked so very hard). Doubles, after all was the topic.
and when I get tired, I just ditch one of the doubles and bring my belay slaves up like so...
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davidji
Social climber
CA
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Mar 28, 2007 - 06:07pm PT
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reddirt, that last photo is pretty funny!
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Mar 28, 2007 - 06:32pm PT
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Dirtineye you should make a post that can be eaten......
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reddirt
climber
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Mar 28, 2007 - 06:44pm PT
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enough of this shite!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 28, 2007 - 07:16pm PT
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Not exactly a newsflash: Caughtinzipper still doesn't know his A$$ from a hole in the ground, and he continues to post nothing of value, ever. What else is new?
David, well, too bad you deleted your post. the way to avoid getting involved in 'heated' Discussions is to ignore the idiots. That's nice you agree with me I guess, althogu hI really don;t care who agrees, when I write what almost any climber who has good experience is going to agree with. Funny how I mentioned that people could get it from Rgold if they didn't want to take it from me, and then he writes nearly the same stuff. (only more in depth and better) Same from Healeje, very nearly.
That's not coincidence, it's cause there are certain principles of double ropes and clipping and for that matter MOST in climbing that time and/or testing and/or experience or all three have shown to be good, and then that others are not good.
Never mind who wrote the good stuff in this thread, you can probably get almost all the same info from several books as well as from any guide who knows double ropes well and had been trained with em, as well as from any experienced double roped climber who pays attention to things.
Here's a news flash: I've tried many approaches over the years to help people who were screwing up. I've been nice, I've been firm, I've yelled and screamed, and you know what? IT almost never matter what approach you take. Someone who is truly concerned with their mistakes will react favorably (unless you really jump all over em from the start) but MOST OF THE TIME, nobody wants to hear anything about what they are doing wrong, even if it is life threatening.
SO, especially when I try to be nice, or neutral, and some damned fool reacts the way reddirt did, I know who I'm dealing with-- seen em before. Nothing will change that sort of person's mind.
ANd if you are like reddirt, you say things you don't mean, attack annd insult anyone who makes a comment you don't really want to hear, and then try to defend you poor work, and then delete the evidence and modify your posts to change the meaning. LOL, good job there, kid!
Oh and THEN you have to put on the "ignorance is bliss, how dare you disturb MINE?!", t-shirt, along with the "What, Me Worry?" hat, and the special "I'm gonna do it MY way, regardless!", button.
Special note to Dingus: I hvae heard that almost all my posts taste like sh!t. Some even tast like crow. But I don't usually eat my posts.
Unless they are Post Toasties.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Mar 28, 2007 - 07:21pm PT
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Wootles, but hemp is not as safe as modern climbing rope, and besides, I don't think it has good food value, in spite of all the fiber.
Come on man, think of all those moountaineers who you could save wiht a boilable edible, high calorie rope. Imagine sitting in your snow cave, bad weather for 4 days, no food, but thanks to your edible sterling rope, you just boil up some water, add rope, and presto, pasta al dente!
You owe it to mankind!
And think of the marketing potential-- can't you just see a whole new product line for Sterling? "Each rope comes with three tasty sauces!!"
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