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zBrown
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Indecent exposure
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2017 - 09:58pm PT
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Well - didn’t mean to ignite a Supertopo Fire, but it’s been entertaining.
The idea was to suggest that we be alert to national emergencies which will allow an administration to gain great power and restrict human rights because of fear. It’s an old story. It works.
Is this a prediction? No. But it's a possibility and one to be cautious of.
Read a little history. The present administration is already working on many of the steps which have been taken to consolidate authoritarian governments in the past. A major event could tip things radically. Fear is the catalyst.
We're in a unique time. Can't imagine what the outcome will be. Not optimistic. Sort of glad I'm 85.
Just watch, listen, think. And react in a way which just might help preserve our democracy (or what’s left of it), relations with our allies, and our individual freedoms.
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Rants, incidentally, often originate from and are welcomed by closed minds. But they are entertaining!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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"LIBERAL FASCISM!"
Fringe-right codewording made popular by Jonah (spawn of Mormo) Goldberg. Its use generally indicates the utterer is simple, easily manipulated and can't discern fact from fiction.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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MikeL: agreed.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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The national emergency happened last November. Doofus is burning down our great nation every day, with every tweet. The OP's conspiracy theory won't happen; Doofus and the GOP congress have all the power now to do whatever they like. We gave it to them.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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....Fear is the catalyst....
I try
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c wilmot
climber
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The media is working on this right now
They will crackdown on your freedoms to protect you from the Russians
Beware what you wish for
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c wilmot
climber
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According to sources with inside information on the matter the media is colluding with the trump regime to use the Russian election meddling as an excuse to strip Americans of freedoms long seen as fundamental rights
I read it on the internet- it must be true
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Ghost, read the news. The Canadian law authorizing the state to remove children from parents who "interfere" with a childs "chosen gender identity " was passed last week. For what its worth, both my parents were Canadian citizens who left that country to come to the US.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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And for those who call me insane, I am advocating conservative morals that made our Nation the free world. For hundreds of years, the values I refer to have guided us to success. The ultra liberal views the "liberals" are advocating are very new. And in only a few years, they have made America weak and vulnerable. We are entering a civil war as a result. The liberal values many people espouse on this site would have been ridiculed off the face of the Nation only twenty years ago. Put your liberal views in perspective compared to the ways of our people in the last two centuries and you may find that it is YOU who are crazy.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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The ultra liberal views the "liberals" are advocating are very new. And in only a few years, they have made America weak and vulnerable.
Can you give us some examples?
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WBraun
climber
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People who destroy whole nations do not have the right to teach us democracy and living freely.
This what you people are doing and have been doing for years and years now with all your stoopid fantasies.
You should all STFU and really wake up ........
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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I am advocating conservative morals that made our Nation the free world. For hundreds of years, the values I refer to have guided us to success. The ultra liberal views the "liberals" are advocating are very new. And in only a few years, they have made America weak and vulnerable. We are entering a civil war as a result. The liberal values many people espouse on this site would have been ridiculed off the face of the Nation only twenty years ago
I guess you never read our Nation's history
We came from the Conservative Dark Ages that were the standard for the last 2000 years and had a Liberal revolution called the enlightenment that was the basis for the Constitution 200 years ago
The civil wars are always started by the conservatives trying to shove conservatism stone age morals and policies on the rest of the people.
We became weak and vulnerable because of the conservatives voted in with Reagan, that was the start of our decline, and the start of the defunding people and providing welfare for the rich and powerful
You can't point to a single policy voted in by the Conservatives that was good for the people in general, it's all for the rich and taking away freedoms, only the liberals have done anything positive for you and your family if you believe it or not.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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The false dichotomy of your conservative vs. liberal "teams" is silly.
They even give the teams colors and animal mascots! And most of the population will fall for it.
Learn to think for yourselves beyond the distractions of this silly propaganda.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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^^^
such complete BS
abortion
taxes
education
military
minorities
and so many issues are liberal issues that conservatives want to restrict
The liberals want to give us freedoms
The conservatives want to take them away or make them cost more
maybe some day your mind will be open enough and you are able to think for yourself to see the giant gaping dichotomy
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Your response shows just how uneducated you really are Craig Fry.
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false. - William Casey, Ronald Reagan's first CIA Director (from Casey's first staff meeting, 1981)
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Yes, me educated
debating uneducated info wars devotees
I must be doing something right, I got all you fake News folks in a tissy
I listen to political news from independent experts all day long
how much politics do you take in?
please tell me exactly what I'm wrong about
be specific
and your quote is telling, a Republican telling us that they use propaganda to dupe right wingers
some of us are immune to fake news and propaganda, we are called Skeptics
show us proof and the original text.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Spot on, Craig. They have no rebuttal.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Conservative morals....pardon me but what does that mean? I'm familiar with good morals which, by the way, have no relationship to religious or political affiliation
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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I listen to political news from independent experts all day long
lol... well you got me there... I have to work, mostly to fund the murder machine.
I have met few people, in person, who fit neatly into these supposed "teams" that everyone wails about.
Wedge issues (gun control, abortion, new bathroom signs, religions) are divisive nonsense designed to split the global herd into fighting each other.
The US murder and theft machine rolls on unabated regardless of who or what the chief puppet might look like. It didn't miss a beat electing the Orange clown over the war criminal... made no difference.
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