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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 24, 2017 - 06:18pm PT
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That is up to the people to determine, not the POTUS.
Is Trump proposing some law I haven't heard about?
No?
Then he's entitled to both have and express any opinion he wishes.
See, that's the very freedom of speech you claim to care about. It works even when people (like even the POTUS) express opinions you don't like.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 24, 2017 - 06:22pm PT
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I hope you got all that
Special Snow Flake !
Fvck you Dana I know tons more about the forming of the Preseve
And who did what to bring the Smileys on board to allow climbing
And then to shut down climbing than you ever will!
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 24, 2017 - 06:27pm PT
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Is Trump proposing some law I haven't heard about?
No?
Then he's entitled to both have and express any opinion he wishes.
Then the press is entitled to opine, as well.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 24, 2017 - 06:44pm PT
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Then the press is entitled to opine, as well.
Absolutely!
Trump is just echoing what many are just coming to realize: ALL the press does is opine. The era of genuine journalism and news is behind us.
Lots of reasons for that, not the least of which is big-moneyed ownership of the vehicles. But the net effect is that ALL "news" now is editorial spin.
So, sure, it's "free" to be "the press" and spray all it wants.
But we, including Trump, are free to call a spade a spade and want nothing to do with it.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 24, 2017 - 06:44pm PT
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Richard , right?
Madbolter1
Thanx for the compassion !
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 24, 2017 - 06:46pm PT
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So fvck you Jim Brennan
Sadly, Jim, like so many others here, thinks that snark is a contribution.
I'm sorry for what you're going through, Gnome. Seriously.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:02pm PT
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You'll follow that man anywhere.
No. I'm not a true-believer like you Clinton supporters. Oh, wait, you don't have Clinton to follow anywhere now, because she can't lead.
Show me Trump breaking the law (and PROVE it, you know), and then we'll talk seriously. Until then, you're just engaging in the very behaviors and speculations you loved to chide "the right" for.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:06pm PT
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clinton supporters? bish please
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:17pm PT
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Ad infinitum! Suckit or swallow it.
The next post will be by one of the biggest swallowers.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:19pm PT
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CMAC where in the hell are you.
Put the Freaks on the 3:10 to Yuma, never to be heard from again.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:23pm PT
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rick knows the second, but not the first. and he needs help. from big daddy.
news flash rick. same train. many occupants.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:24pm PT
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hey NutAgain!...
i like your style... i have the utmost respect for cmac and the gang including what they've created here on the interface that is st...
with that said, i also find it bizarre that they don't seem to get what they've created... of course they're free to do whatever they want and maybe the bulk of us truly do want a politard free zone where we can be a slightly more ribald version of mountain project and can discuss osha, who was the greatest climber of the 1950's, and whether ebs were better than rbs [should be obvious i aint got a fUckin clue whether that last question is correct, let alone if there is an answer]...
ie. while maybe the masses are cool when the supreme leaders nuke threads that people put intention into, only because someone made a complaint about a thread that got a bit heated... i ain't one of them.
ie. the nuking, rather than locking of NutAgain!'s more recent thread about dems is horse shIt...
i like climbing as much as the next gal, but if we can't discuss politics and shIt gets not only locked but nuked when it isn't "on topic" than fUck it, it looks like maybe it's time for me to search out a new venue for thought exposition and exchange...
it's been a fun ride and cheers to even those whose ideas i can hardly bare to read, let alone agree with... but...
the point: good on ya nut. without freedom this place is a wasteland... as such, i hope this thread sticks around...
while having every thread be about politics would make me leave...
having every thread be about climbing will make me leave faster...
it's been interesting [aka sad] watching this board capitulate, over the last few days, into a consistently sack licking attempt at becoming what the "creators" intended... [and in case there is any confusion, imo, part time sack licking is for the best... it's the full time version that becomes nauseating...]
anyway, that's it for now... cheers to all you folks.
here's one vote hoping this place remains undomesticated.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:35pm PT
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if we can't discuss politics and shIt gets not only locked but nuked when it isn't "on topic" than fUck it, it looks like maybe it's time for me to search out a new venue for thought exposition and exchange...
aww.
dearest Nahoo, we're good. the sh#t is still ok in the stew here.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:36pm PT
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Steering the country into totalitarianism isn't breaking the law?
This isn't going to end well for him. There are still too many decent people left. And quality journalists.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:48pm PT
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hey tb[little]c: i'm hopin' you're right.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:49pm PT
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As to what Nahooo said as usual
Here Here
He speaks for me Too
All of it , sack licking ? Well that's a bit far. . . . .. And its mountain Reject...
Madbolter,
Obviously it took me awhile to wrap my head around where you are on all this
I said back in August that win or lose we would have a Trump presidency.
As to decisively showing you the illegality the treason
Listen to President Bannon,
And follow the money.
Trump had failing casinos, and real estate tied to the success of those casinos
He took huge losses way more than he had to to declair bankruptcy
He used money from the Casinos to buy the miss universe pageant & then took the pageant
to Russia .,. ,.
Any Russian that was available to talk to trump acolytes was a Putin stooge
A member of Intelligence Culture , a Putin hand maiden by default
They all answer to the head of the Oligarchy Putin....
Dots start to connect ..
There was never any chance for Hitlery ., ., she , and the way over the top lib agenda
Were un-electable...
To much crap was forced on middle ( straight, homo-phobic, God fearing ) America For Bernie
To be electable either.
I'm all for some of the conservative principles , not all of them by a long shot.
I had hopes that the start of your inquisition into why the pussy grabber n thief
Is trying to suspend the free press and exclued any anti-regime voices
Especially. Any voice that point out the obvious of the compromised circumstances that would
Have anyone create chaos...
like putting un-vettable people who had to be gathered up and removed from secure positions.
Why would chaos be the rule of the day?
It is to tear the republic beyond repair ~ spoil the water and air ~ so to sell it back to us.
( the same with pot by the way, give it to big Pharma to destroy any good in it - make poison)
And it is the revenge of the fallen Soviet Union
That blames the USA, for its demise.
Putin's gambit ; he wins every way, . . . . . as democracy fails ....
Please look with that less jaundice eye that shows it self from time to time
( "any warm body other than. . . " )
Elizabeth Warren? Maybe? But you are right that elections have consequences
Let's hope my children can grow up in a more American existence than a re-make of a soviet style oligarchy. .
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:50pm PT
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Rock climbers criticizing their president for doing things different than mainstream. Classic.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:52pm PT
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Giving a venue to the likes of the Craigster, Crankcase, and freaks of the same Feather to endlessly spew their poison is a mistake. These political threads are not spirited debates, they're just a platform to propagandize a rejected ideology rooted in a useless, unworkable set of non realities meant to sew chaos and piss off any reasonable person.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 24, 2017 - 07:54pm PT
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amendment 1 RS. Biyyotch!!!
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Feb 24, 2017 - 08:09pm PT
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rick sumner: maybe.
and yet you [and me] are still here.
i remember reading threads on this joint during some of the bush years and it was, as i recall, exactly the opposite end of the spectrum, relative to now, that mostly held the floor.
while you, madbolter1 and cosmiccragsman [to pick on a few] may think it's one dimensional around here... as long as you dude/ttes stick around [and i frankly hope you do] it frankly isn't.
while there have been times when this board swung right... as of now it certainly, based on the most vocal, swings left.
doesn't mean it's not without value.
if you truly think this shIt is without value than what the fUck are you still doing here?
mountain project already created the climbing centric version of st...
and it's boring as shIt.
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