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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:20am PT
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THE SECOND COMING
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Written by W.B. Yeats, in 1919.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:24am PT
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The UK seems better off now than it was when I was a kid living there in the 70s and 80s. I'm not sure about what they are hoping to return to??
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:33am PT
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Trump, as usual, is the opposite of right. Claimed while in Scotland that they would be happy to be exiting, where in reality, Scotland voted pretty overwhelmingly to stay in.
Not only does he not know anything about foreign affairs, he doesn't even seem interested in trying to know. Pathetic.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:35am PT
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I'm not sure about what they are hoping to return to??
yeah, there seems to be a bit of that sentiment going around these days. Maybe they don't like saying moving forward for fear of being labeled a 'progressive'??
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:45am PT
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The UK seems better off now than it was when I was a kid living there in the 70s and 80s. I'm not sure about what they are hoping to return to??
One may expect that all the world would be better off now then it was 30 or 40 years ago given the incredible improvements in science and technology (and hence productivity).
And many people's lives are much off better off. But the working class doesn't seem to have got much of the gains, and they're pissed.
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trailridge127
Trad climber
Loveland, CO
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:57am PT
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It is the beginning, there will be a domino effect with France and others. The corrupt elite will attempt to make them pay, but hopefully others will leave and they will implode. I am sure Obama and his twin Hillary are getting nervous about how they stand to lose power.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:37am PT
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Cross posting here ...
Great interesting speech. Tells the truth. Answers many questions. No teleprompter. He's gonna be a great President. He saw what Obama and Hillary could not see ... And he was right.
Donald Trump Turnberry Scotland Press Conference - Brexit 6/24/16
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2UGc8e966E4
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Make America Great Again. Take it back. Ameriexit.
Get off the NWO agenda.
You know Obama came over to England and said stay in the EU. How pompous of him. And Hillary agrees with Obama. What ever Obama says she agrees and does. They voted not to listen to Obama. They voted out to get their Country back.
Donald Trump was right. He didn't presume to tell another Country what to do. He said make your own choice. He said don't listen to me. It's your Country. Vote your conscience. But, if it were me I would vote to withdraw from the EU. The Brits made their choice. They voted out. Brexit.
Some people are born leaders and some people aren't.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:39am PT
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Former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan told CNBC on Friday the U.K. vote to leave the European Union ushers in a period that's even worse than the darkest days of October 1987.
Britons voted by 51.9 percent to quit the 28-country union, shocking markets that had priced in a win for the remain camp.
"This is the worst period, I recall since I've been in public service," Greenspan said on "Squawk on the Street."
"There's nothing like it, including the crisis — remember October 19th, 1987, when the Dow went down by a record amount 23 percent? That I thought was the bottom of all potential problems. This has a corrosive effect that will not go away."
The former Fed chairman said that the root of the "British problem is far more widespread." He said the result of the referendum will "almost surely" lead to the Scottish National Party trying to "resurrect Scottish Independence."
Greenspan said the "euro currency is the immediate problem." While the euro and the euro zone were major steps in a movement toward European political integration, "it's failing," he said.
"Brexit is not the end of the set of problems, which I always thought were going to start with the euro because the euro is a very serious problem in that the southern part of the euro zone is being funded by the northern part and the European Central Bank," Greenspan said.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:43am PT
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Greenspan said.
Greenspan another fuking criminal ....
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:45am PT
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^ ^ ^
Interesting comments from Greenspan.
I just moved some cash into US equities in an effort to "buy a dip," thinking that this shouldn't have a long term negative effect on the US economy. Of course it's entirely possible I made a blunder and we should all sell sell sell!
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:51am PT
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Trump cheering on this madness just pushes him farther back in the presidential race.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:56am PT
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Wilson, where are you going?
You idiot. Get back in there at once
and sell, sell.
I'm covering for my old boss, today. A client who typically nets 100-200K/annually has a net profit of one million dollars for today.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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Trump cheering on this madness just pushes him farther back in the presidential race.
Other than Hillary being indicted, a market crash / recession may be the only thing to give Trump a chance.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Jun 24, 2016 - 11:11am PT
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Jean Monnet, and the millions of Europeans who died in the world wars, must be rolling in their graves. And British foreign policy, which has for centuries been based on supporting a balance of power in Europe, with no one country controlling the key corridor from the Adriatic to the low countries, is in tatters.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jun 24, 2016 - 11:20am PT
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Here's an interesting opinion from the Financial Times that I happen to share.
Curt
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jun 24, 2016 - 11:32am PT
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Whose fault is it?
Basil Fawlty as the next British prime minister? It will be hard to top out the present one.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
At least brexit sounds like a very crispy cookie...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 24, 2016 - 11:42am PT
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Yeah, well the 'younger generation' didn't vote so bugger them.
They were presumably too busy clubbing, or whatever.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jun 24, 2016 - 11:42am PT
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An old Brit friend said " ... for the first time since 1979 working class people whose industries have disappeared in the interim had the chance to be heard - and they took it."
Tami, what your friend, and like minded americans fail to realize is that, with the advent of technology, those jobs aren't coming back.
If you toss the Scots' votes England voted strongly for leaving:
and that's why Scotland will leave the UK after the next referendum.
The demise of "Great" Britain continues.
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