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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 27, 2015 - 10:44pm PT
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I fear the backlash against people who may, at SOME time, carry the diagnosis of depression.
I remember Thomas Eagleton, vice presidential candidate, who was dropped from the ticket when his history of depression was discovered, and thought to be a disqualifying condition.
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son of stan
Boulder climber
San Jose CA
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Mar 27, 2015 - 10:59pm PT
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Pilots are quite a reliable class of human. Imagine them opening the cockpit
door these next days and having 150 pairs of eyeballs locked onto you
with the new look.
Worried, weighing, judging, hoping, frightened, suspicious.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 28, 2015 - 06:49am PT
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I figured out the solution. Only hire female pilots. A Female pilot has never committed a murder/suicide.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 28, 2015 - 07:10am PT
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I love to fly. Can't wait for a trip I have in May. I don't get to fly very often and I consider it a real treat. At least if the weather is good and I can see out the window.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 07:13am PT
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I reckon I'll go on flying.
You can't fly.
All you can do is sit there drooling in the chair.
Only the mechanical imperfect copy of a bird is flying .....
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 07:19am PT
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You better read the door cockpit manual ......
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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Mar 28, 2015 - 07:23am PT
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If shite like this happened once a week I would still fly. I flew to the middle east like 4 days after 9/11. The odds are way in your favor of nothing ever happening.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 28, 2015 - 08:58am PT
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I don't like Airbuses, either, but a flight on the top deck of the A380 is unbelievably quiet,
as long as you are above and not behind the wing. You can carry on a conversation at a
whisper even during takeoff!
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:16am PT
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Once you understand the cockpit door bullsh!t then you'll come to Crypto AG.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:25am PT
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Werner I went over the manual carefully. The door is well made difficult to break down and lockable from inside with no outside override (barring complete electrical failure) for 5 to 20 minutes.
You want to point out what is missed?
Crypto AG is a company with unknown ownership that makes encryption equipment for communications and has been reputably accused of leaving backdoors for the NSA to use. Not pertinent to the scenario.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:28am PT
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Usually not.. but I'm bored and wanted to know more about the doors anyway. He's a funny troll.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:29am PT
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Crypto AG?
Werner WTF?
WHAT IS IN THE MANUAL THAT WOULD ENLIGHTEN THIS DISCUSSION OH CRYPTIC ONE?
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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NSA Backdoors in Crypto AG Ciphering Machines
The Airbus story is not what it appears in the news.
We've been 0wned again and remain stupid sheep .....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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Was it the Zionists?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:40am PT
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Uhmm crypto AG doesn't make any listed equipment for airbus. Even if it did How would a means for secure communication impact the scenario given by the french investigation? I think the French would very much enjoy poking our intelligence in the eye publicly. Why would Lufthansa cooperate with a coverup?
What direct evidence do you have.
Meh.. I'm getting sucked into the troll again..just like I did with your pentagon missile thing.. My only question is whether you actually believe the things you don't say.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 09:49am PT
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You need to dig and keep digging.
Hint, backdoors, investigations to Crtpto Ag
You'll see ....
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Mar 28, 2015 - 10:06am PT
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I do believe that conspiracies exist.
But Werner has never seen an incident that doesn't involve one.
The Cryptic Mystic sees one behind every bush.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Mar 28, 2015 - 11:16am PT
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The video that Climb2ski posted (#41) shows the Needles for a second right at the start. I witnessed that test or another one October 1, 2009. Spectacular to see. The f-16 would come in from the south, way down in the bottom of the Kern Cyn. (visible due to smoke from the wingtips like at an airshow,) disappear from view due to terrain, the reappear in a near vertical climb over the Needles, engine roaring. They also flew in from the north. About 12 passes altogether.
edit, there were Nasa and AF personnel at the lookout to observe. I was on The Charlatan.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Mar 28, 2015 - 11:37am PT
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Back on topic, I keep seeing references to psychotropic drugs on this thread. Is this a known fact? I ask because these types of drugs are also used to control seizure disorders. Long shot, but I have had convulsive seizures (now under control.) I would get about 10 seconds warning during which time I would be rapidly losing motor control. If this happened to the co-pilot he may well have fumbled with the door switch but set it to locked from Normal, not open. After that who knows.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Mar 28, 2015 - 11:41am PT
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from the on- line news today..
The troubling details about Germanwings pilot Andreas Lubitz keep piling up: The New York Times reports that he sought treatment for an unspecified vision problem that had the potential to end his career. As with his psychological problems, the 27-year-old apparently did not reveal the vision trouble to his employer, says the newspaper, which cites two anonymous investigation officials for the scoop. It's also possible that all of Lubitz's problems were related: One of those officials says the vision trouble, whose details aren't specified, might have been psychosomatic.
The BBC, meanwhile, picks up on a report in a German newspaper that interviewed Lubitz's ex-girlfriend. She quotes him as saying last year, "One day I'm going to do something that will change the whole system, and everyone will know my name and remember." The woman is a flight attendant identified only as Maria W. If he did bring down the plane, she said, "it is because he understood that because of his health problems, his big dream of a job at Lufthansa, as captain, and as a long-haul pilot was practically impossible."
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