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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:09pm PT
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"The scienece is settled, and there's a consensus!!"
Do you mean Science? I am not sure what scienece is.
What "science" is that Blew? "Intelligent Design" the religious gospel of pseudo-science?
And WTF are Anthropomorphic Global Warming prophets Do you even know the meaning of the words you misuse?
an·thro·po·mor·phic [an-thruh-puh-mawr-fik] Show IPA
adjective
1.
ascribing human form or attributes to a being or thing not human, especially to a deity.
2.
resembling or made to resemble a human form: an anthropomorphic carving.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:12pm PT
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What "science" is that Blew? "Intelligent Design" the religious gospel of pseudo-science?
It's like talking to a door....
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:14pm PT
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In your case Blew a rapidly spinning revolving door to nowhere.
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:15pm PT
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Philo -the Tacometer has no reason to lie about home LED lighting.
Do you?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:16pm PT
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No CornHole but you seem to. What does a tachometer have to do with lighting alternatives anyway?
Face it you few can flog your selves in an endless circle jerk of misinformation but you don't have the chops to debate this issue on facts.
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Edwardmw
climber
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:19pm PT
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LED lighting technology is improving all the time. There are quality LED's out there with a comfortable light temperature. Warm white, cool white and amber led's are becoming common, you have a choice.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:22pm PT
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachometer
A tachometer (revolution-counter, Tach, rev-counter, RPM gauge) is an instrument measuring the rotation speed of a shaft or disk, as in a motor or other machine.[1] The device usually displays the revolutions per minute (RPM) on a calibrated analogue dial, but digital displays are increasingly common. The word comes from Greek Ταχος, tachos, "speed", and metron, "to measure".
Keep it coming wrongwingnutz you only make yourselves look stupider. Which I had thought impossible.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 06:25pm PT
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What's to debate? On one side there are actual users who are getting gouged and then are upset because they are looking like alien autopsy victims bathed in the unflattering Chinese light... Then on the other side are salesmen, artists, and wire pullers with an agenda.
I just want a good American made bulb that I am free to choose and is not mandated by the Govt. Is that so wrong or hard?
EDIT: Philo, are you reading under LED light? That was a TACOmeter, not a Tachometer. TACOmeter says LED's are "bad". Check the gauge!
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:27pm PT
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FACT: I BOUGKT A PARTY USET LITEBLUB FROM BIRDWELL. WHAT COLOR DU I PIANT IT?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
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Werner you deal with low end LEDs.
Russ your standard bulb is now made in Communist China not America.
And Hank you well know what I mean.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:30pm PT
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Skipo WHAT are you talking about?
120? 120 what?
Are you talking voltage?
Check into it.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 06:31pm PT
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Philo: Russ your standard bulb is now made in Communist China not America.
Nope... right here is the real deal:
http://www.lightbulbsdirect.com/page/001/CTGY/USAIncan
USA bulbs, ready to give tons of bright natural light with no pink tinge.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:32pm PT
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Sure you do Skipper. Install LED lights and a grid back feeding PV system and have the utilities pay you.
http://www.lightbulbsdirect.com/page/001/CTGY/LED
The grid is taxed from running too many wasteful incandescent bulbs.
Our grid is 120. Do you know where 240 comes from in your house?
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 06:35pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^
Chinese autopsy bulbs. FAIL
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:37pm PT
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Sure Russ Sure.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:37pm PT
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I've done a lot of work with LED's
I install thousands of dollars worth of led's a year.
As far as being pleasing to the eyes, your full of sh'it.
They have a very narrow light bandwidth and which screws up the natural contrast.
Philo are you sure you know wtf you're talking about .....
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:39pm PT
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Skip what voltage does the grid deliver to your house?
Werner you posted this already.
And yes I know what I am talking about.
LEDs are the way which is why Corporations and Municipalities are switching and saving Millions annually. I can take you to retail businesses and restaurants that are 100% LED and you would not notice the difference.
Incandescent light bulbs have the same future as whale oil lamps. Historical dust bin.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 06:49pm PT
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Philo, they might be hiring for the holidays.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:51pm PT
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You stupid assSkip. LEDs will save money, energy and the environment for our children's future.
Gas hog cars and wasteful lighting will not.
Keep defending the indefensible waste that is the Republican way.
Bitch about government mandating progressive change all you want but the future is coming and it doesn't include the horrid wastefulness of the old paradigm.
Tax incentives for PV systems, green tech and clean cars IS the way of the healthier future.
I never once claimed the grid was a constant. I regularly explain it to clients it is more like a river with lulls and surges. Where do you come up with your ASSumptions anyway.
For the record. again, I am a lighting designer and installation specialist with a skill for diagnostics, not a wire puller or an electrical engineer. And I am NOT a salesman.
By light years ahead I am speaking as a artist designing lighting.
And yes I have installed complex power systems and power conditioners.
Skip please for once answer one question... How do you get 240V in your house?
What's the matter Russ, haven't been laid in a while?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 26, 2011 - 06:58pm PT
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Russ,
If you want cheap incandescent lights for that "warm spectrum glow" that are made in the USA and use many more KWh that you have to pay for, then have at it. It's a free country. Well, kind of, sort of. Well, for right now in some respects it is. Well, you know what I mean. Enjoy it while we can.
I've gone now nearly 100% LED, and they use far less KWh for the same or brighter light. Yes, I can purchase them so they give off the similar warm incandescent glow. Many that I have purchased do so. However, I kind of like the LED light glow now, I've grown used to it for the ones that aren't pretending to be incandescent.
I indeed know I'm using far less KWhs, and I even leave some LED lights on now 24/7 and my bill is still far cheaper. Who knows, if I can really reduce my KWh usage, maybe some day I will get brave enough to go 100% Solar and store in batteries the energy produced and get off the grid altogether. It's my dream. I can do it, given one day I can afford the initial start-up investment.
Hey, Molycorp Mountain Pass Mine is firing back up to provide REEs. We don't need China for that. Also there are vast REE deposits sitting just off-shore the Hawaiian Islands and else where on the Pacific Ocean seafloor that are far richer in % REEs than any land based mines or deposits ever discovered. Japan released that study this summer. See the "Mined" thread. We just have to work it out how to do it, and to do so environmentally. I'm sure it can be done.
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