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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:06pm PT
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Gene, you'd have to Google 'Muslims Denmark Holland Sweden' to get a feel for what our MSM doesn't report. Even Italy and France are having problems.
There is tension from the 'migrants' who refuse to assimilate despite choosing to immigrate to those countries.
Look it up...I can help if you're too lazy to do the research.
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Gene
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
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Look it up...I can help if you're too lazy to do the research.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day. Thanks Bluey for making me laugh.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:11pm PT
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There is tension from the 'migrants' who refuse to assimilate.. Darn those Amish, anyway. And what about the Hasidic Jews?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:17pm PT
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Jokes like that leave me in stitches.
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Gene
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:18pm PT
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Get back on thread you two!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:19pm PT
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Darn those Amish, anyway. And what about the Hasidic Jews?
Do I really need to answer this, Anders? You a bright man who already knows the answer so I assume this to be a troll.
You're comparing rioting, stabbing, slandering North African migrants to the Amish and Jews? Really?
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 15, 2010 - 10:26pm PT
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Gene, quit needling me, I'll get back on thread when it's fitting.
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Gene
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:41pm PT
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RC,
What can I do about BR & RA and their yarns? They're warped. Not a purl amongst their posts. I'm in stitches about most of what they fabricate.
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Gene
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:42pm PT
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Me an my "homies" Gene?? I dont have "homies"
Now I know I'm wrong. Thanks, Ron.
Best you can do?
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 15, 2010 - 10:47pm PT
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Um, Ron, look to the top of the page. Read down. We were speaking in puns.
Seriously? You couldn't figure that out?
And all this time you had me on pins and needles...
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Gene
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:49pm PT
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Ron,
Please understand that my previous post was a series of puns in reply to Mighty Hiker, Ricardo Cabeza, and myself.
Take a deep breathe and chill. K?
It's all good.
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EDIT: Ron: I never intended to insult you. Sorry you misunderstood our warped {pun} humor.
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Gene
Social climber
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Jul 15, 2010 - 10:55pm PT
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Ron,
Keep posting. It's all about pushing conflicting ideas at each other. That's how we end up with a solution, but if not that, at least respect for one another.
Best,
gene
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 16, 2010 - 01:44am PT
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I'm knitting my brows at all this great humour, these purls of wisdom.
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2010 - 02:00am PT
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Anders, you're clever.
It must just be woven into the fabric of your sole.
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cupton
climber
Where the past and future meet
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Jul 16, 2010 - 03:41am PT
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Lolli,
Definitely make the trek out to Jordan if you can... Wadi Rum, Petra and the Red Sea but if you have the time its completely worth arranging the visas ahead and checking out Damascus. Every westerner I have know who has been there has been totally surprised with the gorgeous old city, laid back atmosphere and friendly people. In my mind best city in the Middle East.
The climbing around there is a bit lacking though.
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I_do
Social climber
Utrecht
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Jul 16, 2010 - 12:36pm PT
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Eh Ron,
you might make a stronger case about your contacts in Holland and the Netherlands if you realized they weren't seperate countries.
Furthermore if you think there is such a thing as Islamisation you're a retard. In the Netherlands there's about 5% muslims right now, their numbers are expected to grow to about 8% in the next thirty years unless birth rates for muslims go down (which they probably will), the younger generations are less frequent visitors of Mosque's and have more liberal ideas then their parents btw.
So there's a small increase in numbers, and a strong adoption of western ideas.
You think that's islamisation?
There's enough useless fearmongering over here, no need for you to be scared of our muslims if I were you I'd focus on real problems in your own country.
And you also seem to forget American aggresion in Muslim countries, their hate does not invent itself...
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I_do
Social climber
Utrecht
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Jul 16, 2010 - 12:48pm PT
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Fattrad,
I'm not quite sure if that's factually correct but I'll take your word on it.
However, most people in these countries are you know, just people trying to live their lives. Then suddenly there's this foreign intervention, what are they supposed to think?
How many of these people had anything to do whatsover with your examples of planes flying into buildings? There were 19 people who participated in the 9/11 hijacks. 3000 Americans were killed. How many Iraqi civilians? What was their role in 9/11?
America as a country is not a simple victim.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jul 16, 2010 - 12:58pm PT
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I_do,
It sort of depends on whether you consider little things like Tripoli, the carving up of the Middle East after WWI, the creation of the state of Israel, helping create and fund all the Jihadis in Pakistan and Afghanistan in the 80's. Some of those annoying little details would be considered aggression by many Muslims.
But hey, fatty likes to keep it simple and not see that the other side has a point of view at all.
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I_do
Social climber
Utrecht
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Jul 16, 2010 - 01:06pm PT
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And Ron,
please repost that letter by Geert Wilders, I will tell you exactly where and why he is wrong.
seriously.
Oh and please tell me, what is islamisation and by what parameters would we know wether it was happening or not.
How do we determine if it is in fact going on.
I quoted the numbers from the central bureau of statistics a non-profit research agency and a short recap of their research into the development of islam in the netherlands.
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