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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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As far as I'm concerned the beach is SO overrated in So Cal. You all can have it!
I live close to the beach and rarely go, don't care to, too much of a hassle, water isn't clean enough, too many people, high rates to park the car, nah....not for me.
It takes entirely too long to drive to any climbing areas from where I live. Williamson was the closet area, can't wait until its re-opened.
I agree with whoever said earlier the problem with cali is the people, true that, too many here. I've wanted out my whole life but circumstances have kept me here, so remain in So Cal Hell.
However, the Sierra is nirvana to me and is where I go, as often as I can, it is worth the five hour drive, stay a few days and soak in the peace of it all. Yeah, the Sierra is what makes Cali alright!!! but the rest of the state, well.....
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David Knopp
Trad climber
CA
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Hey Rok, your problem is we DO know better.
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sac
Trad climber
spuzzum
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Hey, (the) Chief!!
Wow, where, exactly, is that place ??
Looks ... cooool.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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If you don't like crowds, just go mid-week. Chances are you'll have the place to yourself ( Yosemite Valley excepted ).
And if you don't like the weather, get in the car and drive 45 minutes.
If you don't like California, you're wrong.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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"Population pressures have brought out the British in Cali climbers and every climbing possibility around population centers has been excavated into a climbing area regardless of quality."
-Kinda like Colorado, only less contrived...
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Tom Woods,
Are you up for more climbing this summer? I want to go back and try that overhanging hand crack we looked at, in addition to a bunch of other stuff up there.
Kevin
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Rainbow (I-80) was empty on sunday.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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this place is great!
cheers!
RM
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oh, the humanity!
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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when idaho got the internet in 2005, we knew there would be trouble. nowhere else would intelligent humans have to listen to this kind of drivel.
boise probably isn't even as nice as fresno, let alone a city with character. cali has lots of suburban shithole, as does idaho. california has lots of beautiful houses way out in the middle of nowhere, as does idaho. california has some of the best granite in the world.. as does.. oh wait.
you are mad because 400,000 people don't get as much water as 30,000,000? what makes you think rural folk have more rights than city folk, where does it say that in the constitution?
rj, urban planner, politician, ecologist, and expert politician. All that without reading a book, doing an experiment, or going to school.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
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the whack jobs in Idaho think they are all so independent and wild west while keeping a big hand out for federal aid...
That's funny as hell. Funny cos it's true.
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franky
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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at a technician level, in other words, you don't know how to do anything but the work someone told you to do, the brawn but not the brains eh?
makes sense in light of all your brainless opinions about everything.
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WBraun
climber
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"The wilderness of Warblers imagination..."
Hahahahaha LOL!!!!!
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MeatBomb
Gym climber
Boise, I dee Hoe
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Rokjox: I am capable of a lot.
You forgot windbag on your resume and for a guy so capable one would think you could get a job, somewhere. Do you even look for jobs or do you just post spew on the Supertopo forum all day?
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Hmm...lots of heat, mostly not about Donnini's actual point. But I'm not sure why we should care if folks are scraping off every urban escarpment they can find and bolting it. Every pile of choss with a bunch of climbers on it is that many fewer climbers on the good stuff...sounds more like a solution than a problem to me.
California is one of the climbing jewels of the planet.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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They had some FUN stuff in that building. Sorry I can't tell you anymore about it. Wolves? Space aliens? Arks? Klimmers? GWB's brain? DC's conscience? Do tell!
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Funny thread. So Cali empties out mid week BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO WORK! Not all that surprising of a concept (DISCALIMER, although 'work' is not a surprising concept, many of us do find it to be shocking).
There is SOOOOOO much frigging untouched rock in CA. Shuteye, Woodfords, Balch, Domelands, East Side, West Side, etc. Hell I haven't even been up north. Even in Yosemite there are tons of untouched formations. Tons of walls with routes not in any guide book. Why don't people go there? Well they have no sense of adventure, they want to be spoon fed every minute detail, they have to hike in, they have to camp not in a campground, etc.
A few weeks back I took a rest day in the valley and hiked to something I wanted to do to check out the approach. On the way out I hiked out a different way along a wall. I had previously only climbed on the far left of said wall (that was all that was in the Reid guide). On my hike I found a sh#t load of stuff. Nice stuff. No one on it! But I like that because it just means more adventures for me.
After getting shut down by a road closure sunday night we decided to explore on monday. Found a way in to a killer area, found another huge killer area, found a nice looking cave, and even natural soda spring. IT'S out there - you just have to be willing to drive, look, and hike!
kev
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Waaaa, there are too many people in CA.
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gonzo chemist
climber
Crane Jackson's Fountain St. Theater
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There's probably room for a few more good lines on this guy:
credit: stolen from Pullharder.org
I hail from Connecticut. I'll never complain about the abundance of rock in California.
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