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jonnyrig
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formerly known as hillrat
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May 28, 2014 - 01:40am PT
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I will learn to live with religion when it learns to let me live.
How can it guide me when it is wrought with so many misguided by it?
If there's a God, and He lets us choose the most basic of things (that being whether or not to believe) then what makes us think he has any interest in getting involved in the rest of our lives?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 28, 2014 - 01:50am PT
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That Honest Abe's God quote should serve as proof of His existence is an argument I haven't come across before, that much must be said.
Then again, I haven't stumbled across a miniature of Rodin's The Thinker sculpted out of a turd, either.
Both proof positive that the world still harbors many surprises, even as life's autumn sets in.
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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May 28, 2014 - 02:04am PT
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Then again, I haven't stumbled across a miniature of Rodin's The Thinker sculpted out of a turd, either.
life might change if you did, though. like you might start worshipping it or something, maaan.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 28, 2014 - 03:02am PT
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I would wonder at the source of its creation.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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May 28, 2014 - 03:07am PT
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The Book of Lies is only useful to lying politicians. The rest of y'all believers are unfortunate victims of childhood indoctrination to a cult.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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May 28, 2014 - 09:41am PT
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imagine that, another pedophile cover-up by the catholic church. big surprise.
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go-B
climber
Cling to what is good!
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May 28, 2014 - 09:52am PT
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 28, 2014 - 10:04am PT
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It's more of a penlight/sea monkey kind of thing with the Chief.
Not complicated.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 28, 2014 - 10:36am PT
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I don't think the issue is whether current leaders, or previous leaders, are/were Christians, or even whether a majority of the population, is Christian.
The issue is whether those who have power should have the right to turn the government into a Christian state, or even a religious state. Getting back to the Supreme Court decision that sparked this thread, the Court blew it because they sanctioned exactly that kind of use of power.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 28, 2014 - 10:44am PT
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I actually think that as a whole, culturally we are a Christian nation.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 28, 2014 - 10:46am PT
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And I say that as someone who is at most, slightly agnostic.
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go-B
climber
Cling to what is good!
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May 28, 2014 - 10:49am PT
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It's 2014...
...The Declaration of Independence adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 28, 2014 - 10:55am PT
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On the other hand, those who want to claim the freedoms and rights embodied in the constitution, Declaration of Independence, etc directly result from traditional Judeo Christian values of the founding fathers also should acknowledge that Judeo Christian values are responsible for those documents darker elements, e.g., slavery. Can't have it both ways.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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May 28, 2014 - 11:01am PT
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" if you ignore the rape, genocide, slavery and murder the Bible is all about love. Oh, and a zombie." -lol
The Churf learned a little facetiousness and he 'a running with it. Churf, facetiousness isn't really a winning tactic. It's fine for a little witty banter,now and then, but eventually it reveals itself to be without substance.
From day 1, religion hasn't got anything right.
Religion has caused millions of deaths.
Religion has never saved a single life.
Religion is used to justify poverty and oppression.
Religion is used to scare children.
Religion is xenophobic.
Religion is the opiate that protects the power elite.
Religion is hate .
Religion is racism.
Religion is a sad relic of ignorant minds and sociopaths.
Mother Theresa is also called the whore of Calcutta. She did more to protect pedophiles and the elite than she ever did for the poor.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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May 28, 2014 - 11:01am PT
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It's in the last 14 years that the GOP really gave christianity a bad name in the US. It's become a punch-line to a bad joke.
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WBraun
climber
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May 28, 2014 - 11:16am PT
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A real Christian you would never recognize.
All you see with your defective eyeballs is your own projected stupid selves onto the world outside of your own self.
You are the world as you make it.
But then there is the world as it is.
Which you stupid fools completely miss .......
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 28, 2014 - 11:45am PT
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Stanford saves and works modern miracles. So thank God for Stanford and other smart fools.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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May 28, 2014 - 11:47am PT
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I like our President Onama but it seemed like the Peace Prize was just political. Can we ignore the power-elite and politicians now. I agree that they both use religion for their own purposes. So what?
'Nonetheless it moves' - Galileo
Christians believe in Witches and Demons and gods eternal punishment for thought-crimes. That's your people, churf.
(Leland Stanford was a true dick)
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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May 28, 2014 - 11:48am PT
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this thread is truly moronic, even by st's absurdly generous standards.
strong werk, folks
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