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bluering
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Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 26, 2010 - 09:39pm PT
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It would be magnanimous if that mosque were to go up besides a Catholic Church and a fire station and for everyone to get along knowing they are all family, all Americans. Unfortunately thats not the case.
Yeah, Kumbaya.....Do you really think that'd happen? If you asked the developer if he really wanted to show 'interfaith' whatever, do you think he'd go for it??? A Catholic Church right next door, or Holy Sh#t, put on one floor of the same building!!!
That would show 'interfaith' relations.
I actually think it's a good idea, if for no other reason, than to prove my point.
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Do you think they should/would even be asked to? You ignorant slut.
Yeah they should and would. A Church is a place of acceptance and tolerance. Why wouldn't they? They wouldn't want to piss off the locals.
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And you still didn't answer the question... do you think it would be in poor taste?
Of course.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 26, 2010 - 09:42pm PT
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We've had a Rabbi and an Imam teach classes at my church, about respecting your elders and performing the best at work even when you don't enjoy it, respectively.
But I live in California and my church plays sweet ass rock.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 26, 2010 - 09:45pm PT
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Greg, I think many of you think I fail to respect Muslims in particular.
Wrong!!
Muslims are some of the most devout people I've ever met. I do not have anything against Muslims in general.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 26, 2010 - 09:45pm PT
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um, not what i said.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 26, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
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Here are two members of my church singing some hymns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhYT-7bzHis
Yup, Rythm guitar and drums. Thats 4.5million views right there.
If only we can drop pre-existing prejudices about people we know nothing about.... big different between church/mosque and christian/muslim. People are individuals, man. A mosque means nothing more than bricks, its the people in it that make it something special.
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Gene
Social climber
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Aug 26, 2010 - 09:48pm PT
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The Jesuit university my daughter attends has a worship place for Muslims.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 26, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
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Greg, I'm not claiming you called me anything. But Muslims should also respect the desires and feeling of New Yorkers. They appear to largely oppose to this project.
Why not seek a compromise in the interest of mutual harmony?
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Gene
Social climber
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Aug 26, 2010 - 10:01pm PT
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But Muslims should also respect the desires and feeling of New Yorkers. They appear to largely oppose to this project.
Muslims should respect our shared God given rights and dignity. They should not be held to second class status to satify the likes of Bluey and the Blowhards.
g
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Aug 26, 2010 - 10:01pm PT
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Greg, I'm not claiming you called me anything. But Muslims should also respect the desires and feeling of New Yorkers.
Are all Muslims building this center or something? Since when did "Muslims" become a homogeneous borg entity? Some PEOPLE are trying to build it. They are Muslim. Also the vast majority of New Yorkers didn't want us to invade Iraq in the name of 9/11 justice. I somehow think you weren't so eager to see their wishes respected in 2003. Also, if the majority of New Yorkers were FOR this would that change your mind? Doubt it. You're using a poll of convenience to try to leverage your position.
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Aug 26, 2010 - 10:46pm PT
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Me wonders how many "Christian WASPS" will be involved in the construction phase of said Cultural Center.
A guess would be--MORE THAN THE # OF PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:06pm PT
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Build it and read the original papers of this country. Give me your........Anyone who denies someone the right to freedom of religion is an ignorant SOB.
So a few crazies got away with a Horse and pony show, don't hold all Moslims responsible. Don't be as ignorant as the terrorist's and the preceding administration. Today my wife replanted a tree, on the grave, for a father whose son had died 3 years ago in Iraq.....How arrogant and stupid we are.....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:13pm PT
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Build it and read the original papers of this country. Give me your........Anyone who denies someone the right to freedom of religion is an ignorant SOB.
Mark, read more of the thread...you're missing the point being made. They DO have they right, but is it in good taste and does it really create a culture of unity? Or divisiveness, based on recent sentiment?
Should they show real unity by compromising, or give the finger to most NYers and build it anyway?
HDDJ, I didn't mean all Muslims. I meant the ones involved. Actually. I did mean all Muslims, sorry.
I just re-read it...
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:21pm PT
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",but is it in good taste...:"
Jeebus, if good taste was the criteria for building a church (of any kind, anywhere) , then the Catholics are in deep doo-doo and I wouldn't want to live in your world.
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Gene
Social climber
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:22pm PT
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They DO have they right, but is it in good taste and does it really create a culture of unity? Or divisiveness, based on recent sentiment?
Bluey,
How can you even ask that question {{{{again........}}}}?
g
Tastes Great!..........Less Filling!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
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Jeebus, if good taste was the criteria for building a church (of any kind, anywhere) , then the Catholics are in deep doo-doo and I wouldn't want to live in your world.
Did you read upthread??? last page maybe? I already did this with PissChrist...
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:35pm PT
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"The Jesuit university my daughter attends has a worship place for Muslims.
Mine too, wonder if it's the same...SU.
I got to say, I admire the tenacity of Bluey...
some folks just aren't able to see 2 sides of a coin. And that isn't just Blue.
No wonder this is such a emotional issue for so many.
Our country is losing it's soul...and I weep because of it.
DD
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:40pm PT
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Build it and I will do my best to protect their religious freedoms... whether
I agree with them or Knott. I'm an American.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
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I got to say, I admire the tenacity of Bluey...
some folks just aren't able to see 2 sides of a coin. And that isn't just Blue.
Did you read my earlier posts, dude??? F*#k, you people call me reactionary!
I said I admired devout Muslims. One's who are peaceful. But these people building this mosque (it ain't a "cultural center, or they'd allow Christian worship their too) seem to be giving NYers the finger.
Is that so hard to see? And yeah, they have the right to build there, but should they? If they want to harbor cohesiveness?
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Yours is a religion of intolerance and hate, one of the most disrespectful religions of all times.
You are so weak. Yeah, Christians are more intolerant than Muslims and Islam???
You are either a liar, or just disingenuous. Which is it?
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Gene
Social climber
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Aug 26, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
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DD,
Kid #2 goes to Fordham.
g
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Mason
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Aug 27, 2010 - 12:46am PT
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Interesting. Here, Blue.
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