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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Hello???
Jody?
Ballo?
EdwardT?
Cosmic?
Hello???
Anyone?
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Yury,
Why don’t you go back to your Putopia?
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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I have a strange perception
Wow. You nailed it right there. Very strange.
Even Trey Gowdy admitted that because some of his colleagues (from both sides of the aisle) may see things differently it doesn’t mean they aren’t good Americans that don’t love their country.
How far afield things have come.
Enjoy your extra $1.50 a week.
Susan
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Even Trey Gowdy admitted that because some of his colleagues (from both sides of the aisle) may see things differently it doesn’t mean they aren’t good Americans that don’t love their country.
This morning, on Face The Nation, he did a good job of clarifying what the memo (allegedly) showed and what it did not show.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/extended-interview-rep-trey-gowdy-on-face-the-nation/
In a nutshell, the FBI and DOJ completely screwed the pooch on the Carter Page warrants. But that doesn't disqualify the importance of seeing the Mueller investigation to its conclusion.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Yeah those non-partisan republicans love their country so much that they can over-look cutting a few harmless back-room deals with Putin... Then we have those terrible partisan Democrat FBI agents tweeting anti trump thoughts... the Nunes memo release was obviously a desperate last ditch effort to give big mouth Trump more ammo to brow beat the FBI and shame them into ending the investigation...Nunes loves politics not America...At least Gowdy has a little integrity and is retiring because he can't stomach politics...
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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The country needs to get to the bottom of Trumps' collusion and obstruction of justice.
We need to know the following:
How many emails has the Trump administration deleted after they were subpeonaed?
How many subpoenaed hard drives were bit bleached after emails were deleted?
How many phone texts have they deleted after being subpeonaed?
How many Trump officials smashed campaign and administration phones with hammers?
How many subpoenaed phones did Trump turn in to investigators with no SIM cards?
If Trump or anyone in his administration has done any of those things, they should... Edit: metaphorically...hang for obstruction of justice.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Adam Schiff memo pre-release "OMG this is a huge threat to national security",
vs. Adam Schiff memo post-release "This is the biggest nothing burger of all time".
If you can stay on a cognitive dissonance horse like that for 8 seconds, you win the rodeo.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Larry Nelson the Nunes rodeo clowns obviously couldn’t save you before your brain was trampled.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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In a nutshell, the FBI and DOJ completely screwed the pooch on the Carter Page warrants.
I believe that is incorrect. I listened to Trey Gowdy and I recall him saying that Page would be surveilled even in the absence of the dossier.
You know things are crazy when Gowdy is the voice of reason.
Larry - it was a nothing burger as relates to the Russia investigation, the harm to national security is the fact that the memo reveals formerly ecret processes. If the bad guys know the process, they can more easily game it.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Now, we should dig into this. Because you are, from my understanding, the only Republican investigator on the House Intelligence Committee who actually viewed the FISA applications. Everything that went into essentially putting together this memo. So, when you're talking about this Steele memo, you are not saying that it was the sole piece of evidence used to justify these four authorizations of the surveillance warrant. Are you?
REP. GOWDY: No. It was not the exclusive information relied upon by-- by the FISA court.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Would it have been authorized were it not for that dossier?
REP. GOWDY: No. It would not have been.
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Nuglet
Trad climber
Orange Murica!
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Jody?
Ballo?
EdwardT?
Cosmic?
Hello???
Anyone?
they are getting spanked with Forbes magazines?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Enjoy your extra $1.50 a week.
doesn't dumbass Ryan know how much a latte cost at Starbucks?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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*Trump has won the heart of the Republican base.
He may be unpopular with the public at large, but among Republicans, nothing he and his supporters said or did during his first year in office drove his Gallup approval ratings significantly below 80 percent. Forced to choose between their support for Trump and their suspicion of Russia, conservatives went with Trump. Forced to choose between their support for Trump and their insistence that character matters, evangelicals went with Trump.
One Virginia Republican, explaining why he had just voted for Democrats in every race, told The Washington Post, “I’ve been with the Republicans my whole life, but what the party has been doing is appalling.” Trump’s base stayed loyal but was overwhelmed by other voters.
*We understand why Republicans, even moderate ones, are reluctant to cross party lines. Party, today, is identity. But in the through-the-looking-glass era of Donald Trump, the best thing Republicans can do for their party is vote against it.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/boycott-the-gop/550907/
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California, now Ireland
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2018 - 03:00pm PT
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I sit afar, looking in.
I see subterfuge, I see outright lies taken as truths. I see distraction. I see a weak GOP governed by the few extremists, I see a weak Democratic party who can best bring out a young Kennedy. Sad.
A Democratic party with no agenda, no leader, no viable alternatives.
I see Donald Trump being teflon nothing to him sticks. Right or wrong. But he does not care, and there in lies part of the problem. How to satisfy a narcissist to move on?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Can't wait to read the emperors new book " Me , Myself and Lie " ...rj
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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When your Pres is Trump "The Situation" from DC Shore can you really be surprised by anything?
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