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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Had to laugh when I ran accross this bid advertisement today
Searchlight NV is Dingy Harry Reed's home town.
There's an RFB out to put locking covers on all the manholes.
I guess thievery goes with the territory.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Ron, dude, you're the only belligerent I run across in daily life and not one who really trucks much with reality.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 10, 2012 - 12:48pm PT
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Palestine? Gaza? WTF?
How about Pine Ridge?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 10, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
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Another SEAL member kia in Afghanistan while rescuing an American Doctor being held there...
What do you think, should we just get out of Afghanistan? We getting nothing for ourselves there and as soon as we leave, whenever that is, they're going back to whatever they want. Why are we wasting lives and money there?
Peace
Karl
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
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The Democrat paradise.
Why work?
Let someone else do that.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:28pm PT
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Why work?
Let someone else do that.
I know right? Like the blue states? You do know which states suck off the teat the most eh?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
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^^^ Brought to you by the 2016 Republican Crash and Burn Campaign.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
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Karl said: "Dude, this notion of "Terrorist state" is a ploy by Israel and major powers to differentiate between major military powers, who kill 10x as many women and children as the "Terrorists" they call it Collateral damage.
Our drones strikes kill more innocents in a year than the Palestinians have killed in 10 years. They just call them "Militants" no matter what"
I won't disagree on the drone strikes. I'm bothered that the President, who claimed to be a "constitutional scholar" is using them to kill innocent American civilians because he decides he should. As far as your support of Palestine. Karl, sometime you just have to pick a side and do your best. I keep seeing you supporting the Palestinians (Philo as well). Maybe you read this today in the news. Mashaal, the leader of Hamas, has just effectively re-iterated that he will not negotiate the fact that all of Israel is theirs, and that the Zionists need to move elsewhere. This is the link to the Arab version, of course, somehow the Jewish version, whereby they feel that full translation is that they will be snuffed, is more alarmist.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/12/20121284378161786.html
You can only pick one Karl, "justice for all" can only be had by voting for Israel:
Jew
Muslim
Pick one only. That's the choice that the Palestinians are demanding. If you pick Jew, things continue as they are. Where Muslim citizens of Israel can vote and are equal to Jews. (of course there are examples of discrimination don't bother listing them all, it's no different in this country - don't make me list examples) Pick Muslim and the Jews will need swimming lessons before they are forced into the Mediterranean. Doing nothing is not a choice, it is choosing death to the Jews. Israel is the only country the Jews have. Read the Hams charter: "jews get out of Palestine (Israel) alive or dead" is an accurate summation.
Hamas doesn't want to give an inch here, there is no negotiating or compromising. Kill or be killed and GTFOut is being pitched by Mashaal, and this has always been a reoccurring theme from Hamas starting with their charter. No compromise.What are the Israelis suppose to do? Walk peacefully into the ovens so that Hamas can rule the only part of the middle east not controlled by Muslims already? The fact that Israel is a democracy and that the Muslim Israeli citizens can vote makes a difference to you does it not?
It's an easy choice for me, every other country in that area is already Muslim, and they have trouble getting along with each other, let alone with us, no matter what brand of religious intolerance they exhibit and support. I vote support for Israel, which is also a vote for democracy and the rule of rational law.
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monolith
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albany,ca
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:49pm PT
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TGT, show me how to get $168 a day.
SNAP Food stamps are about $4 a day for a single person.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 10, 2012 - 01:52pm PT
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I'm bothered that the President, who claimed to be a "constitutional scholar" is using them to kill innocent American civilians because he decides he should.
Ok dude, I gotta know exactly which "innocent" civilians the president has been whacking with drone strikes.
How about just a modicum of care in what kind of bullshit you write?
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
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Talking the 16 year old boy Bruce: an unarmed US civi, and his friend who were killed in Yemen in the Al Alawaki strike. The President has reiterated exactly what I stated above that it is his right to make the call to murder or execute as he choses, and he reviews suggested targets weekly he has said.
Werner, if that is anywhere close to true, how long to you think that will stay up? LOL. BTW, talk about houey. Obama was chosen by drug cartels? Please. Every level?
You believe this? "Drug cartels operating at a “street value” of up to three trillion dollars per year, Afghanistan, Iraq, Kosovo/Albania, Colombia and Mexico, control every level of American government, not just state, local and, of course, Washington, but police agencies, the courts and have penetrated the legal profession, law schools, universities and all major financial institutions."
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Dec 10, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
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It's interesting to see how easy it is to fool some people, who want to be fooled.
"Welfare", primarily Food Stamps and Medicaid, account for about 5% of the Federal Budget and it's usually the FIRST thing some people talk about when cutting spending. Meanwhile Defense spending is 20% or 4X "welfare" but the same people usually want to increase that.
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John M
climber
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Dec 10, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
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That graph of TGT's is funny. It probably includes social security and medicare which the GOP deems to be welfare. Thats one of the GOPs problems, they don't define terms. Any program that they don't like they call welfare or socialism.
ack.. you are a tiresome person TGT.. go ahead. quit working if you hate it so much and think that so much free stuff is being given away. See what happens in your twisted little world.
They call unemployment insurance "welfare" also.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 10, 2012 - 02:09pm PT
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Sorry couch, my apologies.
"Anyone who thought U.S. targeted killing outside of armed conflict was a narrow, emergency-based exception to the requirement of due process before a death sentence is being proven conclusively wrong," said Hina Shamsi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project, in a statement. "The danger of dispensing with due process is obvious because without it, we cannot be assured that the people in the government's death database truly present a concrete, imminent threat to the country. What we do know is that tragic mistakes have been made, hundreds of civilian bystanders have died, and our government has even killed a 16-year-old U.S. citizen without acknowledging, let alone explaining his death. A bureaucratized paramilitary killing program that targets people far from any battlefield is not just unlawful, it will create more enemies than it kills."
Good to know you're a staunch supporter of the ACLU though. Too bad all the INNOCENT Iraqis and Afghanis couldn't get a little more due process too eh?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 10, 2012 - 02:10pm PT
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Nope, just food stamps, welfare and SS Disability which has gone parabolic since Barry came to town.
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John M
climber
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Dec 10, 2012 - 02:22pm PT
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SS Disability is not income related, meaning that you can be above the poverty line and still get SSD. Its just part of your social security benefits. So if it is included, then no wonder the graph is skewed. SSI is income related. In case you are not aware, SSI is supplemental security income. It is for those whose SSD is below the poverty line and only supplements the SSD.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 10, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
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Hamas doesn't want to give an inch here, there is no negotiating or compromising.
I don't believe that accurately reflects what Hamas has just said. What they've said is that they will never acknowledge the right of an Israeli state to exist within the borders of pre-1946 Palestine. But in practically the same breath they basically say that they are willing to live with an Israeli state they still will not recognize so long as it's based on the '67 boundaries.
Semantics maybe, but important semantics to them.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 10, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
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Jessie Jackson Jr.
Resigns in disgrace and the two top contenders for his replacement are a convicted fellon pervert (Mel Reynolds)
And this guy, Trotter.
Last week we reported on Democratic Illinois state Sen. Donne Trotter, who faces felony gun charges after attempting to take a handgun onto an aircraft. Trotter’s troubles bring the number of Illinois Democrats facing serious charges to three, and the mystery around Trotter himself has deepened.
After his arrest, 62-year-old Trotter claimed that he had the gun, a .25 caliber Berretta, due to his second job as a security guard. His job as state senator pays $67,000 per year plus lucrative per diem when the Illinois Senate is in session.
Trotter has been in the Illinois Assembly for 24 years. But while the company he claims employs him as a security guard, All Points Security and Detective Company, lists him as an employee, he never disclosed this employment on any of his campaign finance records. He is not answering questions about the second job. Neither is All Points.
But All Points has large government contracts. Trotter’s mysterious employment with the company, plus his failure to disclose said employment as the law requires on his campaign finance documents, raises the possibility that his security guard job is a payoff scheme.
Trotter is among the Democrats vying for the US House seat recently vacated by Jesse Jackson Jr.
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