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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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May 22, 2014 - 11:44am PT
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so............ simple question. the states rights thing. am I right or not?
If you mean is claiming "states rights" an attempt to allow states to discriminate (as the founding fathers intended, or at least permitted), then yes, you are correct.
There was however a civil war and a 14th Amendment to the constitution, which settled those issues in favor of the Federal Government, so it can be claimed as much as they want, but it ain't so.
TE
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 22, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
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Ok FlipFlop, What was revealed to you? This is going to make you my new enlightend leader. Don'tlead me astray.
Morel?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 22, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
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Tvash said
Patriotism is a bludgeon for the stupid and an excuse for institutionalized murder.
It can be, but it rarely is. You're thinking of fascism I think. I wonder how you think about late-term abortion?
EDIT:
Because we all know some cows are more important than the survival of some 'worthless' species.
They're your kinda people!
DMT
It's fascinating when anti-LEO and anti gov't people start to support regs against cows who are claimed to be destroying the habitat of a rodent. ReallY?
Maybe there are other motives. The desert tortoise wasn't in danger in Nevada, it was a land-grab! And the gov't killed just as many, if not more, during the program implementation.
It's all bullsh#t, at least most of it.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 22, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
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As for States' rights, the 9th Amendment was put in to allow States to be 'laboratories of democracy', to exercise rights not delegated to the Fed or forbidden by other Constitutional laws.
The Fed was supposed to have a very limited oversight role. Not a domineering one that it has today.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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May 22, 2014 - 11:26pm PT
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So what's the morel of the story here??
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 22, 2014 - 11:33pm PT
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SAN FRANCISCO COCK SUCKAH!!!!!!
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 22, 2014 - 11:33pm PT
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Just thought that might inform the debate.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 22, 2014 - 11:38pm PT
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So what's the morel of the story here??
That every clown has silly lining?
Damn near ended my days up on Snow Creek Wall when a huge block pulled and I rode it down for a ways and when I slammed to a stop I got to watch it head for the rope. But it missed, and I finished the pitch but then could barely stand once I reached the ledge cuz my knee didn't work very well anymore after zooming into the wall under the overhang.
So we bailed, but on the hobble out we realized that the trail was lined on both sides with morels for almost its full length. (I don't why we hadn't noticed on the way up.) Eric was carrying some stupidly gigantic frame pack, and we pretty much filled it.
Too bad I don't like morels.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 22, 2014 - 11:56pm PT
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Liberals must have a deep mental disorder, closely related to hatred and self-guilt. This is my conclusion after dealing with so many people online.
It is based on years or personal experience, anecdotal data. Not "science".
But it seems that Christians deal with their attacks in a kind, respectful manner.
The vile attacks against us are very nasty, usually profane, and relegating us to stupid people.
My point is that we Christians tend to still be better stewards of society. And a good Christian never brags about it, but I thought it needed to be said.
Think about this. Would the world be better or worse without Christians and their "stupid values"?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 23, 2014 - 12:00am PT
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The only question you can ask is the only one you can answer with any authority - would the world be better off without you?
You don't speak for anyone else, libruls, d gayz, or 'Christians'. I know a passel of Christians, real ones, who wouldn't wipe their arse with the likes of you. You're an embarrassment to them.
Sorry to be so frank, but dood - you're a fugazi with a cross lodged firmly up your poop chute.
And, like most maroons, you're also a one note song.
Or hymn, I guess.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 23, 2014 - 12:05am PT
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Think about this. Would the world be better or worse without Christians and their "stupid values"?
Why don't you hold a really big slab of meat in front of a very hungry bunch of tigers.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 23, 2014 - 12:08am PT
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So, you're saying the world wold be better if we were gay? Or Muslim?
The Christian way is so bad that we should relegate to whom? Atheists? Muslims? Gays?
That would be awesome?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 23, 2014 - 12:10am PT
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One less arsehole is always a nice-to-have.
I'm envisioning a weld mit out zee Jews.
Oh wait, that's been tried.
You can sub in jews with any variable you like, but the equation always resolves to 'FCKED IN THE HEAD'
Live and let live.
The one tenet fundies absolutely cannon abide.
Unfortunately for Focus on the Family and the like - that tenet defines the future.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 23, 2014 - 12:18am PT
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I had a discussion over lunch today with a younger, growing smarter, punk.
We discussed the difference between naivete and ignorance.
In the case of Tvash, I think he's both. Simply put, either stupid and naive, or just a liar.
I'm used to dealing with this level of propaganda and bullsh#t. Although, he thinks he's so smart, hence the naivete.
His ignorance enters when he supports what he says. What he says has no basis in fact.
The liberal mind is distorted and is troubling.
EDIT: Interesting you go straight to Jews for your point. Very telling.
Got Jew on yer mind? Anti-semite!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 23, 2014 - 12:25am PT
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TRue, Jimmy. And I despise using tired old labels.
That why as#@&%es like me use the 'neo' tag to re-address this changing issue
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 23, 2014 - 12:26am PT
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I do have a Jew on my mind. I just skied Glacier Peak with one, but he's only a half member of the tribe, so perhaps that demotes me to semi-anti-semite.
That, and he's an atheist.
As are all my Jewish friends.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 23, 2014 - 12:34am PT
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Maybe your friend is a neo-Jew, Tvash. One who hates his/her own culture in favor of liberal, progressive crap.
To each his/her own. Have fun with that!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 23, 2014 - 12:38am PT
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You're wrong, Jimmy. Ideologies morph constantly.
This is the game of commies and progressives, and even ultra-conservatives.
As I said I hate labels, but modern commies combine several ideologies, and stray from pure Marxism or National Socialism, or Maoism.
It always morphs. But it is all tyranny.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 23, 2014 - 12:45am PT
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What's really ironic to me is that Jews today are some of the most hated people in the world, next to Christians, but everybody ignores the throat-cutters in Islam.
They actually attack innocents in other faiths and KILL them for that. Jews and Christians tend to take unusual care to target the guilty and avoid the innocent.
I see what's happening, it's just disturbing that others can't see the obvious.
Jews/Christians=bad, Islam=no opinion.
Cowards.
EDIT: take what you want, Jimmy. I don't give a f*#k!
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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May 23, 2014 - 01:21am PT
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I work with a lot of high school aged kids, and I'm so gratified to see the Bluering gene largely absent among them. They'd read his idiocy and immediately move on in disgust. Zero interest in bubble boy stereotypes. Real experience interests them. Individuals interest them. Fugazis? They can smell 'em a social network away. One second of 'lemme tell ya how the world works, kid' with all the Jews-do-this and Muslims-do-that and they're off to the texting races - even a 16 year old's got better things to do, ya know?
This fuels my optimism for the future.
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