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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Jul 14, 2009 - 04:57pm PT
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OK so I've had my iPhone for about 20 hours now and I'm loving a lot of things about it compared to my BBerry. Other things are annoying (as they are whenever you are getting used to a new phone).
First you have to love the look and feel of the thing. It's amazing. The responsiveness of the screen. The way it moves everything around. Everyone already knows this though so whatever.
I really like that it allows for so many e-mail addresses to be checked and added and whatnot. That is really helpful. I DON'T like that all the messages aren't in one simple and easy list. The BBerry is great for this. All your texts, instant messages, e-mails, calls and voicemails show in one simple list that you can access from anywhere at any time by simply pushing one button that takes you straight to it. Hit the "Back" button when you're done and it takes you straight back to whatever you were doing. In fact it is the lack of true multitasking ability that I find is the biggest and most annoying drawback of the iPhone so far. When I start my NPR streaming application and fire up KJZZ I should be able to exit out of the app and surf the web or send a text and STILL LISTEN TO THE RADIO. Kind of a no-brainer. When I turn on Yahoo Instant Messenger so that my sister can text me from her computer as she studies I should be able to go do other things and have it simply tell me when she sends me a message so I can go read and respond. I shouldn't have to sit there staring at the Yahoo IM app unable to use any other part of my phone. That's really dumb.
Other than that I'm loving it. My woman took her computer with her and I don't have an FM antenna set up so I turned on my NPR streamer, hooked it up to the stereo and when it was time to run to the store I simply unplugged it from the stereo and took it with me without missing a word of the discussion. I probably would have bought a device for that alone.
Also the ease with which is takes and sends pics/video is unparalleled. My folks got me this fancy video camera to record my daughter with and they haven't seen many of the videos simply because its so tedious to transfer and upload them to a web site. I've sent them 5 different videos since yesterday. They are in heaven. They'd probably pay my whole phone bill just for that alone.
In any case if Apple would fix the stupid background application problem so that things would run properly when you exited them I'd give it 5 stars. For now it gets 4.
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crøtch
climber
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Jul 14, 2009 - 05:36pm PT
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Great thread. I am loving Remote, Pandora, Urbanspoon and Now Playing which all came from this thread.
New additions
TideApp
Picoli
SwirlyMMS2
videorecorder3
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Jul 14, 2009 - 06:10pm PT
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Just brushed the dust off my DJ editing skills and made some custom ringtones. F*#k paying the industry for music I already have.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2009 - 06:14pm PT
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HDDJ - I think you raise a good point about the multi-tasking. That does sorta suck. It does some multi-tasking.
As far as listing everything together that's more of you being "spoiled" with what you had. That doesn't bother me as I never had it and thinking about it I'm not sure it sounds like a "can't live w/o" thing.
I need to figure out how to make ringtones.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2009 - 06:39pm PT
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You can do whatever you want with your blackberry. this is iPhone discussion. What are you doing here? Move along, nothing to see. Move along ;-)
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Jul 14, 2009 - 06:47pm PT
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Ok so BeeJive IM works for what I wanted as far as IMing goes. BBerry has been out for ages there's no way that the Apple guys shouldn't have taken all the best parts of the BBerry and just made it better. Multitasking apps is the obvious evolution of these machines.
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Jul 14, 2009 - 08:22pm PT
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nature - you know the language, or at least have the brains to acquire the language....
You should make your own apps!!!
it's pretty easy given the iPhone simulator that should have come with your Macbook...
check it out
Also, the only game I realy liked with the i(whatever) is this street racing game. Forget the name of it, but it had a pretty col bunch of levels.... But then again... I'm no gamer, so I let that go too
Cheers
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2009 - 10:47pm PT
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iAmTempted.
iSuperTopo
iTheTaco
iThePlaceIwasteTooMuchTime
iWhereIsTheRoute?
iOldE800
iRubberChicken
iHelpMeFixMyBlowupDoll
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 15, 2009 - 01:27am PT
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I love that eXpando feature as well. Does anybody incorporate it into a computer monitor/laptop screen?
-Why not?
jay-bifocalssince'96-bro
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 15, 2009 - 01:03pm PT
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HighDesertDJ - check out this excerpt from the Apple iPhone OS 3.0 Software Sneak Peak from a while back;
click on 03:00 in the timeline and play to about 4:40 or so. Here Scott Forestal talks about background
processes, and it's quite illuminating. In an example he gives, various mobile devices had their
battery standby times drop by 80% just by having an IM app running idle in the background.
FWIW, on jailbroken iPhones, the app Backgrounder (Cydia repo) allows you to run apps in the background.
As an example, you could stream Pandora or NPR or whatever, hold down the Home button to
put it in the background, and then launch a turn by turn GPS app, "background" it, then
make a phone call or launch other apps. This is a fantastic mod to the iPhone, but you ARE
using more RAM and more CPU, and if you're knott plugged in, your battery will die quickly.
As an example, I had Fring running in the background, and forgot it was on, and put the iPhone
next to my bed with a full charge. When I woke up in the morning 6 hours later, the battery was
stone-dead. So it's pretty clear why this isn't available to the (mostly clueless) masses.
A great companion to Backgrounder is mQuickDo - in addition to a ton of custom gestures,
there's an incredibly handy app-switcher which works great with apps running in the background.
http://www.mcleaner.com/iphone_w/mquickdo.shtml (scroll down to watch the video).
I purchased my original iPhone on Sept 2 '07, and jailbroke it a week later. I've never looked back...
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Jul 15, 2009 - 01:57pm PT
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Thanks for this man I will check it out. It shows what a resource hog the iPhone is if that is the case. I can run several things at once on my bberry and the juice will go all day. The only thing that really sucks battery is yapping on the phone and hunting for a signal in a dead zone. Granted the iPhone is heaps faster.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 15, 2009 - 02:06pm PT
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Yeah I'm knott sure what the difference is between the two devices, but I can tell you
definitively that doubling the iPhone's RAM has made a HUGE difference, especially if
running multiple apps. On the 3Gs it's night-and-day compared to the last two iPhones.
Competition is a really good thing for the consumer - the more great devices the better!
Edit: Talk time is doubled on EDGE compared to 3G on all devices, so turning off
3G (if knott needed for data) will help battery life immensely if you're on the phone a lot.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Aug 28, 2009 - 01:40pm PT
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Hmmm... I wonder where that leaves me? I used 12 minutes of my plan last month, and don't use Skype. I just hate talking on the phone! lol It's simply too easy to do everything through email and text these days.
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froodish
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 28, 2009 - 01:55pm PT
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A few of my favs...
Briefcase
Omnifocus
Shazam
SmackShot
Zenbound
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F10
Trad climber
e350
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Aug 28, 2009 - 02:48pm PT
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Looks like I am jumping on the grenade tomorrow,
Time to upgrade, ditching the Tmobile Dash and getting an iPhone,
and dumping the Mac G4 and getting a 15" MacBookPro
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Aug 28, 2009 - 03:32pm PT
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I made a list of my favorite jailbroken apps - many of these are indispensable:
Adblock (Blocks ads from loading in Safari)
Backgrounder (run multiple apps in background)
Categories (organize apps by putting into separate type-specific folders)
Cyntact (show photos in contacts lists; automatically grabs profile pics from Facebook friends)
Flashlight (much, much brighter than App Store approved versions)
iFile (complete control and navigation of iPhone files and system)
ImaSafari (toggle images on/off - handy on slow connections)
Inspell (standard spell checker/corrector with red-underline)
MobileTerminal (run Unix commands directly on iPhone)
mQuickDo (custom gestures; launch 5 favorite apps from lock screen, app switcher)
Netatalk (access iPhone on network using standard file-sharing protocol)
OpenSHH (enable use of SSH access to iPhone via desktop SFTP client or shell)
PdaNet (enable internet tethering on iPhone using ad-hoc Wi-Fi or USB)
PkgBackUp (automatically backs up and re-installs jailbroken apps)
Quick Dismiss (silence alarms by clicking Home button)
QuickScroll (triple-tap screen to enable scrolling long pages in Safari)
QuickShottr (screenshots automatically uploaded to imageshack; URL copied to clipboard for posting in forums, ect)
Qik (stream live video from iPhone)
Safari Download Manager (download any file via Safari - manipulate using iFile)
Safari Tab Closer (close multiple Safari pages by holding down Page button)
SBSettings (instantly accessible, multiple system-wide custom toggles available from within any app, and from Lock Screen)
SpotBright (shows recently launched apps in Spotlight; click icon to launch)
Ultrasn0w (Unlocks iPhone for use with any GSM SIM card)
Universal Search (expands Spotlight to include search for Maps, Google, Wikipedia, Twitter, ect)
UserAgent Faker (tricks websites into defaulting to non-mobile versions of website)
Voicemail Forwarder (send saved voice-mails via e-mail)
YourTube (expands YouTube app to enable downloads)
3G Unrestrictor (tricks iPhone into behaving as if it's on Wi-Fi to negate 3G network restrictions - ie full quality YouTube videos, Skype calls on 3G, ect)
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Aug 28, 2009 - 03:45pm PT
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Pate - I still have Cycorder on my original iPhone (2G), but it's limited to a max 15 fps.
The 3Gs does much better video at full 30 fps, knott to mention the ability to trim, e-mail, ect.
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा, co
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Aug 28, 2009 - 07:03pm PT
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Thanks for that video Pate!
I tried downloading that tethering software before using the old system and it never seemed to work correctly.
Now I don't have to search out wifi anymore, bitchin!
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Aug 28, 2009 - 09:02pm PT
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About the tethering...
I've been tethering using various methods since iPhone firmware 1.02, and all 13 successive firmware updates.
This method is by FAR the best (and the bluetooth tethering is especially nice), but it's knott all sunshine and roses.
Before you get too excited about this, go to https://www.wireless.att.com/ and click on "Data usage".
Notice there will be a field for "iPhone", and a field for "wap.cingular". What does this mean?
It means that when you're tethering, it is clear that you are doing so. As long as you're aware
that this violates the TOS, and you don't mind the possible consequences, knock yourselves out.
I suppose if caught you could play dumb and claim ignorance, after all, the magic happened by
visiting the help.benm site and a few innocent clicks, right? ;-) Keep in mind that if you go nuts
and start using large amounts of data, it's likely you'll get flagged. Supposedly there's a 5GB "soft cap"
on the "unlimited plan", and going over that amounts might get you flagged for closer scrutiny.
I'd recommend KNOTT using Bit Torrent, streaming HD porn 24/7, large software updates, ect.
Do KNOTT dump the home broadband service so you can use this for the internets...
Do KNOTT update iPhone firmware past 3.01––until a possible workaround is found––it's pretty much a
certainty that this will be disabled in 3.1, as AT$T charges $60/month for an air-card (as does everyone else)
and like $40/month for tethering. FWIW, word on the street is that the data sent/received using PdaNet looks
like normal iPhone data, so it might be safer to use - especially if AT$T starts cracking down.
Enjoy this built-in method while it lasts!
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