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Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
May 31, 2008 - 09:11pm PT
It's not just urban myth. Other states do give one-way tickets and a stipend for their homeless to go to the Bay Area.


From another thread
So far it sounds like I am lucky to be unemployed.



Definitely deportation material. ;-)
yosguns

climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 1, 2008 - 12:28am PT
I think bums should have to spend at least four winters in Boston...or hell, Moscow...before they retire to San Francisco. It doesn't seem fair to bums worldwide that some would have it so easy.

Having grown up in a New England town with 96% white folk with last names like Bahre, Flaherty, and Williams, I appreciate diversity in other regions of the country. I also appreciate the Northeast's attempt to teach cultural sensitivity and practice equality; it's extremely easy to be open-minded and accepting when you are rarely confronted by anything you might have a reason NOT to accept.

But, I digress...

Now, I live in San Francisco and it's hard to think about paying multitudes of times more for less of a house on less land only a jog away from a strip mall, in a state that doesn't even come close to top ten in public education ranking (going by middle schools, try number 48 out of 50 in a recent ranking of aptitude test results--hurray, No Child Left Behind--it's hard to get interstate data for high schools).

Keeping in mind some of the best public schools in the country are in the wealthier areas of Nor Cal--not to mention great magnet schools in the cities--it's still disheartening to think that they're so financially inaccessible just because of real estate.

Guess it's true what everyone says, a lot of people want to live here. And now this is where I live.

Be Here Now, Now Be Here
drgonzo

Trad climber
east bay, CA
Jun 1, 2008 - 11:20am PT
My my...the children here certainly love to deal in baseless generalities and petty prejudices, don't they?

No wonder the world is so f*cked up.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jun 1, 2008 - 11:27am PT
Pre Proposition 13, California arguably had the best education system in the WORLD, from kindergarten to PhD. Libraries were open on Sundays, the road system was one of the best, etc etc etc.


Post Prop 13 - a snowball headed for hell.
yosguns

climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 1, 2008 - 05:32pm PT
Patrick--

Didn't know about Prop 13, but no surprise that this has been extremely detrimental for public education.

Bahh...it's hard to watch students getting ready to take the SAT who don't know how to add fractions or when asked how to find the area of a rectangle, reply "pi"...or don't know how to find the subject of a sentence. Maybe all generalities--there are exceptions, of course--but pretty scary nonetheless.

This doesn't only apply to California. We are so screwed in a global sense if we don't start teaching more science and better math. We are falling so behind to other countries in this respect.

EDIT: I take it back what I wrote before about bums...

...I think EVERYONE should have to spend a few years--or like 20--in some cold winters. Give 'em a sense of humor! ;-)
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Jun 1, 2008 - 07:39pm PT
Whohhhh Trigger. Now we are getting a bit carried away. Having lived in the fringe for many years (Santa Cruz Mountains)the Bay area has a lot to offer.

We have so many state and regional parks throughout the Bay. Beaches that extend for miles of incredible coast line. Biking, mountain biking, surfing, climbing, mountain boarding, trails for miles, and a temperate rainforest full of redwoods, oaks, madrones waterfalls and views that are unmatched anywhere in the lower 48.

California is a wonderful and beautiful state. I recently moved to Southern CA and I am stoked to live here.
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