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Mimi
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Nov 29, 2006 - 10:56pm PT
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I've been lucky to fire an Uzi .45 cal, an H&K .308 (don't recall the model but it had a collapsable stock) and my dad and brother owned several such weapons over the years. If I was ever in battle and was fired on with that H&K, which put a giant hole in the mud imbankment where we shot, I'd be waving the white flag. Not to mention hearing/feeling the muzzle blast standing next to it. You wouldn't want to be hit by that round from any distance.
Really bummed I can't make it to Zion on Monday.
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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Nov 30, 2006 - 12:23am PT
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Mimi,
is that when PR is going to kill his innocent TV?
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2006 - 12:24am PT
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This is my rifle.
There are many like it, but this one is MINE.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life.
My rifle without me is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless.
I must fire my rifle true.
I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me.
I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and myself know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire,
the noise of our bursts, nor the smoke we make.
We know it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life.
Thus, I will learn it as a brother.
I will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its accessories,
its sights, and its barrel.
I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage.
I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready.
We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God I swear this creed.
My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country.
We are the masters of our enemy.
We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until there is no enemy, but PEACE.
-- Maj Gen WH Rupertus
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Mimi
climber
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Nov 30, 2006 - 12:26am PT
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Yes, GOlsen.
JDF, isn't that a military creed; Army or MC?
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 30, 2006 - 12:30am PT
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Coast Guard.
JDF
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Licky
Mountain climber
California
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Nov 30, 2006 - 01:53am PT
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5150 Posted: "MY BROTHER HAS BEEN TO IRAQ 3 TIMES, AND WAS AWARDED TOP GUN AT SNIPER SCHOOL FOR THE ARMY. EASILY ONE OF THE TOP TEN SNIPERS IN THE ARMY TODAY. HE SAYS HE CAN SHOOT A GNAT OFF OF A CAMELS A$$, AT 1500 YARDS. OOPS... FORGOT TO MENTION, TWO BRONZE STARS FOR VALOR, IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS."
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2331236.php
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Ouch!
climber
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Nov 30, 2006 - 02:13am PT
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This is the military creed I was told.
This is my rifle
this is my gun
this is for shooting
this is for fun
I won't go into details.
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marky
climber
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Nov 30, 2006 - 02:16am PT
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anyone remember that shitty bruce willis movie where he's a sniper/assassin type and he field-tests this howitzer looking thing on jack black? I couldn't stop laughing.
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Mimi
climber
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Nov 30, 2006 - 02:27am PT
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Yeah, that was The Jackal. I preferred the original.
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TradIsGood
Fun-loving climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Nov 30, 2006 - 07:07am PT
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uh golsen, thanks. I know what depleted uranium is. Do you? Because your quotation, though accurate really does not say. I'll save you the trouble of further search.
Uranium occurs naturally in primarily two isotopes atomic weights 235 and 238, with 238 being 99.28 %, 235 0.71%. (There is also less the 1/100 of a percent U-234).
All are radioactive, but only U-235 is radioactive enough to support fission (chain reaction of radioactive decay). But for U-235 to be able to do that it needs to be in a higher concentration, typically about 5% for commercial reactors. So it must be concentrated. (Actually CANDU reactors don't use enriched!) Today, typically that involves reacting it with Fluorine to create UF6 (uranium hexafluoride) gas. The gas is injected into gas centrifuges (you might have read about this w.r.t. Iran). These centrifuges can alter the concentration because the U-238 containing molecules are very slightly denser than the U-235. So after you collect up the "good stuff", the remainder contains a higher concentration of U-238 than found in nature. Historically, that has been called depleted (since the focus was on the U-235).
So "depleted" uranium is likely to be about 99.6 to 99.8% U-238, which really isn't much different from naturally occuring uranium except that it might be a very marginally better metal for armor penetration (99.3 vs 99.7) and significantly less radioactive so that it can be more safely handled by weapons loading personnel.
For more interesting stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium
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sketchyy
Trad climber
Vagrant
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Nov 30, 2006 - 10:48am PT
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I just bought a CZ 550 varmiter in .308. It has a set trigger, and bull barrel. I'm not sure what the trigger pull is when it is set but it is very light. I dont reload, and probaly never will. Any one know what the best ammo for accuracy is that you can get from a store?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 30, 2006 - 11:30am PT
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Sketch,
you can even get a scope with ranging graduations for the 168gr BTHP.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Nov 30, 2006 - 11:39am PT
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I want a good Elk Huinting Rifle was thinking of a 7mm Mag. I think thats a pretty stright shooter what do you "experts" think?
Very. Good ballistic coefficient.
I shot a deer once with a 7mm Mag with some loads I'd been printing well using the Nosler ballistic tip bullets. Big mistake. Light bullet, high velocity, plastic tip. Real accurate, but, made a damn mess of bambi. Knocked it down so fast I thought I'd missed it. Wound was enormous.
I dunno. I've had both a 7mm and 30-06 for hunting big game (and an, ahem, .375 H&H). I don't really care for the sharp recoil of the 7mm Mag. And I've shot much bigger game with the 30-06 (moose) and it worked just fine.
Might look at a 300 Win Mag. Really good bullet selection in that caliber. Especially if you hand load.
But, that said, really hard to beat the accuracy of a Remington 700 BDL in 7mm Mag, straight out of the box, with a good scope and mounts. Drop a couple bucks on a nice trigger job and you're money. Mine's a Timney (sweet), although, the Remington triggers do pretty well too (tad heavy, though, for my preference out of the box).
-Brian in SLC
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feelio Babar
Trad climber
Sneaking up behind you...
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Nov 30, 2006 - 12:36pm PT
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tough to beat a savage for out of the box accuracy....but you can definatly pay more for Logos, and bells and whistles on competitors models. A savage will outshoot that remington all day, without dropping the extra cash on accurizing. Also comes with the "Accutrigger" which is adjustable and damn sweet. I like to spend money on ammo and gas.....YMMV. What does it matter how a rifle looks...if it shoots poorly? Conversly...does it matter how a rifle looks...if it's a tack driver? Go Savage...spend a little extra on a Bell Carlson stock. My Savages are all ruthlessly accurate rifles...and a fraction of the cost of competitors similar models.
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sketchyy
Trad climber
Vagrant
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Nov 30, 2006 - 12:57pm PT
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The guy that owns the local gun store told me all ammo was going up 30% on december 1st. All three of his distribiters have told him the same thing. Bought 25 boxes of .223, and ordered 4 boxes of hornady light mag 165gr in .308 a couple of days ago.
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Ouch!
climber
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Nov 30, 2006 - 03:01pm PT
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Anybody know anything about S&W 915 9MM? I bought one 10 or 12 years ago and stuck it in a drawer. Never fired the blamed thing.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 30, 2006 - 03:08pm PT
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Ouch,
perfectly acceptable defense piece. It was made as an economical entry for the police market. Make sure you have high quality 14 or 15 round magazines for it. For penetration use 147gr rounds, otherwise I recommend 115gr.
Get used to the double action/ single action mechanism. I don't like to use the decocker as a safety.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Nov 30, 2006 - 03:17pm PT
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tough to beat a savage for out of the box accuracy
Got any data? I'd be curious to see.
Seems like in most long range comp's, the competitors, if they are shooting a semi production rig, are at least starting with Remington actions.
Wonder if there's ever been a side by each comparison of, say, 5 each Remington and Savage out-of-the-box accuracy?
I'm sure Savage is a fine rig, though. Any company that makes lawnmowers and hardware is bound to produce a fine rifle...(ha ha...kidding!).
There is no doubt that my Remington 7mm Mag is more accurate than I can shoot (ie, I'm the rate limiting step in that equation). Still, seemed to print well at 200 meters.
Did a bunch of experimentation on different bullet weights, different powder, loads, etc. The weird thing that seemed to bring the groups in was using match grade primers. Seemed to make more difference than powder variations and bullets. Strange...
Anyhoo...
-Brian in SLC
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Ouch!
climber
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Nov 30, 2006 - 03:39pm PT
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Thanks Ron. I only have the clip that came with it. I think it has a capacity of 16 with one in the barrel. I shot muzzle loaders for the 15 years before I gave up on all of it. The last thing I shot was a coon in the ass with a pellet gun from the bathroom window. Before that, I shot five rounds into a tub of sand in the basement with my S&W snub just to make sure it still worked.
Most accurate rifle I ever owned was a little Remington .257 Roberts. That thing was a tack driver. My favorites were Winchester Mod. 71 .348 and Browning Auto .338. Usually took it along when hunting blacks in Grizz country.
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