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LMB
climber
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Aug 23, 2003 - 11:55pm PT
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Wow Max, brilliant writing. Dingus Milktoast, though I know nothing of your true character, you do seem to be a huge TOOL.
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nature
climber
some other life
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Aug 24, 2003 - 12:08pm PT
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Max,
Well said.
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DB
Sport climber
Mars
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Aug 24, 2003 - 04:15pm PT
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James and Max,
Please leave the bolt chopping to people whom we can respect like John Bachar or Peter Croft, not some rookie climbers like yourselves. The bolts will be replaced. It is easy to drill out your epoxy or whatever you used to fill the holes and place in new bolts. If they are Rawl 5 piece, the bolts will be replaced with PC7 and the edges rounded off so they cant be removed. If new holes are required, the new bolts will be Petzel Pin Long Life. These cannot be removed.
Your next course of action would be to bend over the hangers and that would make you real as#@&%es.
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LMB
climber
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Aug 24, 2003 - 07:28pm PT
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DB-
Why would you replace the bolts with the unremovable type when the first ascentionist doen't even want them there anymore? Furthermore, why would you want to forever scar one of the most beautiful corners in all of yosemite national park? Please, use your head before heading out to OZ on a replacement mission.
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Flash
Ice climber
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Aug 24, 2003 - 08:08pm PT
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I will laugh my butt off if climbing areas get closed and rangers start harrassing climbers more because of bolt-chopping escapades like these. Even though there are bolt-choppers on both sides of the argument in this thread, all of you get what you deserve for acting like you are the moral compass of rock-climbing ethics.
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poop*ghost
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Aug 25, 2003 - 11:44am PT
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even funnier is that max does seem to care what the supertaco weenies have to say. did somebody get their knickers in a bit of a twist?
and damn dingus, who are you to be talking smack?! When was the last time you put up a hard route in the backcountry? Oh? Sorry.
what about a bolted route? oh? sorry there too.
Trad? err... nevermind.
Alpine? sheesh. my bad.
And the worst is that Dingus is willing to climb with BRUTUS aka bruce bidner. NOW THAT'S PROOF HE'S A NUTTER.
Jason
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The O
Social climber
Yosemite via N.Y.
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James and Max... You two are nothing but Small Wall Pink Velvet Sausage Wallets.... Please present this voucher to the Huff House for a free ass whoopin. If I catch sight of you two lil' monkeys there will be hell to pay... Being as disrespectful as the two of you have been will catch up to you ten-fold. Peace
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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How can you say "Peace" when you just said that you're going to kick their asses? Pick a side, dude...
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Irisharehere
Trad climber
Gunks
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Ah, bolt wars...just like the olden times at the Gunks!!!!!
Now who wants to come over and help us scrub chalk off the Mac Wall on Saturday????
Irish
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NB
climber
Portland
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I for one am sad to see those two bolts go. When I was lucky enough to get to do the second on OZ with Bobo, we belayed off them. It was very difficult to get #3 hexes in that crack. They are not really necessary, but they were original. By the way you know that the lower face pitch bolts were the start of a bolt ladder put in by Warren Harding that's why by Meadows standards it is so well protectrd.
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zen ben
Trad climber
Tuolumne Meadows
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To James and Max,
Now that we all know what bad-asses you guys are lets address the real subject at hand. This act of bolt chopping was done for the wrong reason. Don't expect me to believe that you guys chopped those bolts because they were unnecessary. You chopped them in a feeble attempt to boost your egos while trying to get the locals stirred up. I'll give it to you, in your short time in Tuoulmne you managed to piss almost everyone off. If this is your idea of getting noticed it's on a quite negative note. Tuoulmne is a serene place and I think that you monkeys are a bit too "spray-oriented" for it. Oh and by the way, I'm willing to bet that those bolts (the 3/8" ones) have most likely been replaced already....thanks, but no thanks.
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bobh
climber
Bishop, California
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Removal of these anchors seems like a good idea. They weren't located in a good spot to belay, weren't necesary for protection, and cluttered one of the better pitches in Tuolumne. Old and rusty, but not old enough for the Antiquities Act.
Additionally, it's better to encourage parties to top out rather than rap from the top of the corner so as to avoid traffic jams ala Crimson Chrysalis.
Put aside the posing and personalities of the guys that did the deed; good ridance to these unnecessary bolts.
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James
Gym climber
City by the Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2003 - 09:43pm PT
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I appreciate all your remarks...being labeled as brash, arrogant, unlawful, etc. makes me feel like I'm one step closer to becoming one of my Toulumne and Valley heroes....
Bachar
thanks
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BCD
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Let me guess:
You're the type of guy who ALWAYS has to have the last word, huh?
Well, for your sake I hope you have the skill to back up that mouth. Being a sh#t-talking guy climber won't get you any closer to "hero" status.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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James, you are a moron. Learn how to spell.
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nature
climber
some other life
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Nov 14, 2003 - 01:45pm PT
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Max,
Very recently I ran into a mutual friend of ours. I've got a lot of respect for his opinions. I asked him in particular about the aforementioned deed. Once again I have to say "Thank You". Though I've yet to see your work our friend tells me it was a job well done.
Cheers...
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Matt
Trad climber
SF Bay Area
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Nov 14, 2003 - 04:09pm PT
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the worst thing about this forum is how people refuse to ignore the lame-ass threads and thus perpetuate them (he says as he perpetuates another lame ass thread)...
f*#king dood just wants attention
why pony up?
i beg that we let this one die (again)
peaceout
-matt
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James
Gym climber
City by the Bay
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2004 - 09:26pm PT
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Bolt Choppers Suck-
Just wanted to let you know that the Black Chevy S10 now has California Plates...I finally conned some ancient mechanic into smogging it for me...watch out!
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BCD
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Feb 19, 2004 - 10:52pm PT
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Oh look!
James has revived his own thread!
After beating it to DEATH three months ago, he feels the need to attract even MORE attention to himself.
Again.
Whats the matter James? Are you feeling insecure again? Did you and your life-partner Max break up?
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clustiere
Trad climber
phoenix ,az
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Feb 20, 2004 - 02:18pm PT
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James is like a angry teenager just dont give him the attention and he will go kick his dog or beat his girlfriend instead of waste our time here on the ST site.
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