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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:43am PT
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Self-pity? I pity you and the rest of the sheeple who follow that crazy magic underwear, inherit your own universe bullsh#t. Yeah, it sucked being an outcast from day 1, having the Moron guidance counselor tell me I didn't qualify for scholarships (despite my 3.9, perfect attendance, and maxing out every honors class the high school had to offer), and being turned down for jobs because I answered the "what do you plan on doing after high school" question with "college" rather than "go on a mission." But whatever, I worked for what I have and I'm not tied down to a fat bitch and 8 kids.
I was never personally molested, but I have 5 good friends who were sexually abused by "trusted" religitards... including a scout master and a bishop.
Scratch that, I don't pity you... I pity your children.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:48am PT
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hey there, say, jennie... thanks... i of course used anastasia, as the spring board, as it seemed similar to what i had 'thought' all these years..
say, as to wes (oops, this is an edit: got myself seeing
dermatitis, instead of demerits--i reckon i NEED a demerit now
for not reading closer as to my brain-issues):
THIS is what i had said, before corrected:
oh my, well, dermatitis issue is not the same thing...
any 'memeber of any group' could be sick,or have skin issues, or any such thing,and you have a point there--GOOD parenting, or such, or even 'general health issues' in boy's or sport's groups, sure did not
seem to have surfaced back then, :(
EDIT:
not meaning your dad, of course, meaning that good parnts should help teach kids that dermatitis issues are just that, and not to tease or fear it...
thanks for sharing...
note:
yeah, too, really do not know the 'business, big bucks' etc aspect of the
larger statewide type groups...
but i still think of the same thoughts as i mentioned in the other post..
hard stuff, though, i know,as to the whole thing...
edit again:
wow, wes... unfair demerits, bad call, :O
:(
another way that school can go wrong, :(
if no one helps...
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:51am PT
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demerits, not dermatitis... I got in trouble AT SCHOOL for my dad "cursing" at a completely unrelated event.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:51am PT
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crazy magic underwear, inherit your own universe bullsh#t.
…it’s difficult to take misinformed cranks seriously. The LDS church never represented temple garments as “magic”…and “inheriting your own universe or planet” was never church doctrine.
But, obviously, without these prevarications... you would manufacture others…
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:58am PT
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So, you are claiming the writings of Joseph Smith do not qualify as Moron doctrine? Of course... that makes perfect sense... behold the power of the "revelation" clause!
The Father has promised us that through our faithfulness we shall be blessed with the fulness of his kingdom. In other words we will have the privilege of becoming like him. To become like him we must have all the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an earth like this one we are on and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fulness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. We will become gods and have jurisdiction over worlds, and these worlds will be peopled by our own offspring. We will have an endless eternity for this.
Don't get me wrong, I know people who entertain even wilder fantasies... with magical rings and sh#t... but then, they don't get tax exempt status and molest little kids under the guise of a wholesome religious organization.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:04am PT
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The “inherit your own planet/ unuiverse” tenet came from Orson Pratt, an astronomy lecturer...not Joseph Smith It was never accepted as church doctrine. A few liked the idea…most members ignored it. Brigham young called Pratt “an infidel at heart” and recommended his book be destroyed.
Your quote is from Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation...not Joseph Smith and was never canonized as doctrine by church councils.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:09am PT
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Jennie, you are an idiot. You put planet in quotes in an underhanded way to blame me for your religion's ridiculous bullsh#t. I never ONCE said Morons believe they inherit their own planets.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:12am PT
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Planets, solar systems, galaxies or universes...there is no LDS doctrine or canon that promises any of these systems or structures, Wes...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:15am PT
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hey there, say, wes.... lol, ohhhhhh my.... i NEED a demerit for that one, :O
i have 'mix up' troubles, with words, so i have to be very careful and retype a lot..
so, if see a word, that my 'brain' thinks it is... whewwwwwwww, it jumps the ol' track to fast...
most always i am very careful, but i sure missed the ol' target here, :O
will leave it, but with an 'edit' that i have now 'been corrected' and am
not posting 'fly by night stories' gone haywire, :)
thanks.... :)
say, one demerit for me, erased, now, i hope, :)
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:19am PT
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Jennie, there is no official Moron canon that says bishops can molest little kids, but an alarming number of them still believe they can. I don't give a flying fuk what you idiots, sorry your leaders, decide to canonize. It is all a load of horse sh#t and does more harm than good.
Go ahead and believe that crap, I don't care, but don't allow the sick fuks that hide behind the veil to get a free pass just because they believe the same bullsh#t.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:21am PT
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Oh, now you're going to play the "Bishop molesting children" card.
I see.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:22am PT
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And you are going to pretend it didn't/doesn't happen... no bishop could ever do that... good sheep, your flock is proud...
which is exactly the problem.
Have you ever had a serious conversation with someone, a close friend or family member, who had been molested by a trusted religious leader... a pillar of the community? Do you have any idea what it is like for that individual, that KID, when the entire community takes the side of the sex offender, just because he shares the same absurd beliefs and occupies a position of authority within a delusional group of idiots?
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:26am PT
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And you are going to pretend it didn't happen
What didn't happen? Your unamed friend who you claim was molested?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:27am PT
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Exactly. You can ask Jesus, he'll tell you. Ask him serious now, no fibbing.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:31am PT
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I say, "why didn't he go to the police"?
And you say "Oh, but jennie, you delusional idiot, what Mormon policeman would arrest a Mormon Bishop"?
After reading your posts for six years...I'm afraid you're quite predictable, Wes
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:37am PT
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I don't know a lot of seven year old's who would go to the police when their bishop threatens to "hurt them real bad" if they tell anyone. And if the bishop happens to be the child's father...
Oh come on now, let me hear you blame it on the fact that it was the father and ignore the part about him being a Moron bishop...
ANYONE outside the church would be considered guilty with a mere accusation. But when it involves a church leader in Utah, the burden of proof is on the 7 year old victim. Nice, your Jesus would be proud of you for turning the other cheek.
The sad thing is, you just can't admit it. If someone told me "a geologist" or "a professor" or "a climber" or "a cop" or "a damn near anything" molested a little boy, I would think... "damn, that sucks, I hope they busted that fukhead." But if someone tells a Moron that a bishop molested a kid... it just can't be true... they must be lying...
pathetic
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:49am PT
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You're generalizing...as if this is a common occurance...and hoping those outside domains will wonder if it indeed is...
It's not.
Yes, any molester should be brought down...but I'm not going to accede to this being common occurance.
the glue that holds the community together breaks down when malignant sins against the innocent happen. You're ridiculous suggesting that the Mormon community will allow a wayward leader to victimize a child and do the things the church profess are wrong.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 03:56am PT
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You are ridiculous suggesting that a portion of the Moron community YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN MET is any better than the folks who covered for Sandusky at Penn State or those in the Catholic Crutch who covered for the thousands of accused priests... just because they share your silly beliefs.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 04:01am PT
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Oh, now i'm suggesting Mormons are better?
Yes, play the arrogance and ethnocentrism card....
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 04:07am PT
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And where were you when this offense occured? Did you attempt to access justice?
You want me to admit that some unsubstantiated crime you pull out of your hat on ST...indeed happened... yet you say nothing about what you attempted to remedy your friend's predicament.
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