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Festus
Social climber
San Diego
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Mar 16, 2006 - 04:33pm PT
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You got it!
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Festus
Social climber
San Diego
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Mar 16, 2006 - 04:45pm PT
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Jacko, speaking strictly of mental capacity, here's the only mule I remember
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Jacko
Trad climber
Grass Valley Ca.
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Mar 16, 2006 - 08:45pm PT
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Forest, I just finished a job past Blue Tent on North Bloomfield..Hey we have Donner Summit 45 minutes away, with plenty of climbs. Did you ever get up there when you were living here? What kind of climbing area do you have around Tucson? Also yes that was the Fire Station I worked at, right above the Store. I wonder if the store is still there.... Jacko
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Jacko
Trad climber
Grass Valley Ca.
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Mar 16, 2006 - 08:53pm PT
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Hey Festus, isn't that guy from Quartz Hill where the Men are Men and all the Farm animals are Nervous?
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BPorter
Big Wall climber
Quartz Hill, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2006 - 10:19pm PT
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That's it! Both of you bastards are shitcanned from the Palisades 06 expedition!!
Out
Cracko
06 Palisades Expedition Leader
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Mar 17, 2006 - 12:08am PT
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I got solicited by a Panamanian publisher for some photos for an article on some mountain subject and the photo editor had accidentally CC'ed me an email about it that he sent the publisher. They were pleading poverty too and wanted free images with just photo credits.
He happened to include the following additional remark
"P.s. He's a freak."
That embarassed the publisher a fair bit.
But I do respect regular guys and believe climbing is not just for the elites, misfits and freaks.
Peace
Karl
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 17, 2006 - 01:07am PT
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I'm with Dingus, I sometimes wish we had been regular guys or could still find our way to that vaunted status; but the sad truth is climbing at Giant City probably worked more like panning for gold minus the gold. The one thing we all had in common was some obsession that led us to the bottom of that hollow. Each of us in turn had a peculiar journey to that time and place and most of us had even stranger ones still attempting to leave it behind. I miss every one of the crew and I'm guessing we all miss those days when there wasn't the need for even the slightest pretense of normalcy...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Mar 17, 2006 - 02:09am PT
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my new signature...
I sometimes wish we had been regular guys or could still find our way to that vaunted status; but the sad truth is climbing at Giant City probably worked more like panning for gold minus the gold. The one thing we all had in common was some obsession that led us to the bottom of that hollow. Each of us in turn had a peculiar journey to that time and place and most of us had even stranger ones still attempting to leave it behind. I miss every one of the crew and I'm guessing we all miss those days when there wasn't the need for even the slightest pretense of normalcy
sh#t, wrong board
busko is gonna have my ass for not fixing the sph board.
too tired being normal all day long.
night night
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Mar 17, 2006 - 10:42am PT
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part of being a regular guy/gal is wanting to be a freak... strange...
Congrats to Karl for making the grade, "fly your freak flag high!"
"No more maybes
Your baby's got rabies
Sitting on a ball
In the middle of the Andes
Yeah, i'm a freak of nature
Yeah, i'm a freak
If only I could be as cool as you
As cool as you
Body and soul I'm a freak
I'm a freak Body and soul
I'm a freak
Try to be different
Well get a different disease
Seems it's in fashion
To need the coldsore cream
Yeah, i'm a freak of nature
Yeah, i'm a freak
I don't really know
How to put on a "cool" show
As boring as they come
Just tell me where to go
If only I could be as cool as you
as cool as you
as cool as you
as cool as you
body and soul im a freak, im a freak
body and soul im a freak, im a freak
Freak "
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Forest
Trad climber
Tucson, AZ
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Mar 17, 2006 - 10:59am PT
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Actually, the first time I ever went climbing, a friend took me up to Donner Summit. The climbing scene out there is pretty good, obviously, and I love that Sierra Granite, to be sure. But I think I've found climbing Nirvana out here. It's less than 30 minutes from my front door to roping up. Mt Lemmon is climbable year round with around 2000 climbs on it (the very top at 9000 feet is maybe an hour and 15 minute drive, good in the summer.) Less than two hours away is Cochise Stronghold, lots of granite adventure routes. 4 hours to flagstaff/sedona and all the variety it has. 6 hours to J-Tree. Alas, the valley is a disturbing 13 hours drive.
Mostly, I just still can't get over the incredibly low ratio of climbers to climbs we have out here. I don't know if I've ever waited in line for a climb. Usually, wherever you go, you're the only party there!
Seems that the threat of triple digit summer heat keeps most folks away. :-)
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 17, 2006 - 04:02pm PT
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Regular guys are not afraid to jump out of their comfort zone and get their hands dirty
Barrybro (computer dude, 1 time up Devil's tower)& Chasbro (Lawdog, 100+ ascents of Deto)
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BPorter
Big Wall climber
Quartz Hill, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2006 - 10:14pm PT
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Jaybro,
We got to get on a climb together! My younger brother Jacko can belay and we'll swing leads!! I'm wondering....I got introduced to climbing way back in the early 70's by two "Regular Guys" Steve Stewart and Ron Nelson...Mission Gorge in San Diego. They faded from the scene quickly.
The question is, what's the difference between "Regular Guys" like them, and "Regular Guys" like me who 35 years later are still living the dream ??? I went totally establishment....college, respectable job, family, etc. But, why the F am I still considering soloing El Cap and climbing well into my 60's ???
Cracko
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Medric Magann
Ice climber
Billings, Montana
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Mar 18, 2006 - 02:32am PT
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Them alpine pics are giving me wood. Even regular guys look like Hairy Giant SuperClimbers up in the mountains.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 18, 2006 - 02:53am PT
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Cracko-Even though there is no answer, I'll take a stab at it.
We're pretty impressionable early on, but it's hard to say which impressions are the ones that will take hold.
I pretty much learned to climb, as a preteen, with the Chicago mountaineering club. My parents, both U of C alumni, were members. Lots of the meetings back then were after hours in the Field Museum of Natural History. This (in my mind) lent it all an air of respectibility. The other members seemed to come from a bunch of professional backgrounds; blue collar, business, academic etc. And further, were from diverse nationalities. I got the idea that was just how it was in the adult world.
We went for monthly weekend climb outings, in season, to Devils Lake, wisc. Some of the most memorable trips were when Paul and Joe Stettner were part of the climbing group I was with. Two guys in their seventies(?) who climbed like cats and spoke in heavy german accents, and the adults (mostly WWII vets)seemed to regard them in full respect, as just another way to be -'I guess that's how grown ups are'; accountant, bricklayer, professor, climber.
So for whatever reason, I took That, as the template for the way to be, I guess. I did go to college and all that, but somehow my vision of 'climber guy,' sorta was what guided me, though I was never as hardcore as Real Climbers. My brothers gleaned different lessons from much the same material.
But, f*#k all that introspective sh#t, Cracko, and let's go do some climbs!
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BPorter
Big Wall climber
Quartz Hill, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2006 - 10:11am PT
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Damn, Jaybro, that's what I like about the "Regular Guy". We can take a shot at explaining the origin of the species, say F it, and return to climbing. Regular Guy Cracko and his brother, regular guy Jacko, will be in Yosemite the end of this month attempting EButtMidCath, a regular guy route. We've got a campsite in upper pines cause regular guys sometimes don't feel that comfortable in Camp 4. Hope to see some more regular guys!
Cracko
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Grug
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Mar 18, 2006 - 11:17am PT
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Jaybro, I was just at a party last night at Tom Coleman's house with a bunch of Devils Lake dudes. Pretty intersting cast of characters from the midwest. Do you know Tom?
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BPorter
Big Wall climber
Quartz Hill, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2006 - 01:16pm PT
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Rokjox,
I have come to the conclusion that most of the people who took the time to post up on this "Regular Guy" thread, with a few exceptions, are probably real "Regular Guys". Still, it's always good to be introspective and keep yourself in check.
Cracko
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 18, 2006 - 01:18pm PT
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Hahaha .....
Are you having a "Regular Guy" identity crisis?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 18, 2006 - 02:01pm PT
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I don't think so Grug, I would have to have peabody and Sherman take me on a serious run in the Wayback machine to revisit Those day; pre DLFA! ~'63-70
here's a shot of my dad and I, fresh from a spring of training at Devil's lake, on top of Long's peak in the summer of '69 or 70. I was 13, or 14 and dad was hmmm younger than I am now. Where does that time go?
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BPorter
Big Wall climber
Quartz Hill, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2006 - 02:04pm PT
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Great shot Jaybro. Hmmmmmm, your dad's a bit of a Royal Robbins look-a-like. Coincidence ??
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