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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 11, 2011 - 03:38pm PT
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Karen – sorry for the ot post. I find this stuff interesting and it does have to do with health. I hope you get better!
Okay I’ll begin with the observation that there is not one universal diet which is right for all humans. So you will always be able to find outliers who achieve high levels of performance regardless of what they eat. And do you seriously think that athletes like Lewis and Navratilova did not have at their disposal the very cutting edge in diet and supplements? Do you actually know what went into their bodies in their prime?
Strength comes from working out, not food.
There is a continuous line of research going back to the 1950 in the US which says otherwise. That statement is completely unsupportable.
This article, in pdf form, is informative.
You will find the body is very conserving of protein.
Not for those of us who thrive on a low carb diet. In this scenario the process called gluconeogenesis is constantly taking place converting proteins into glucose. For those of us with spiky blood sugar this is great because the process takes place more slowly.
Runners actually need more protein then weight lifters, and still don't require all that much.
I’d love to see a good source for that. Everything I have learned (from serious pros) says the opposite. My experience is that most runners, especially endurance, do some form of carbo-loading leading up to a race. Of course carbo loading is an evolving practice and the Swedish method of 20 years ago is not so popular.
My practice: I try to eat .8 grams of protein for each pound of lean body mass. I am 145 at about 13% fat, so my lean mass is about 127 so I want at least 100 gr protein daily. I agree with you that the proteins are available from many foods. I more or less subscibe to Sissons ideas:
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 17, 2011 - 12:45am PT
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Hey Karen, I was just wondering how you were doing. Did you get better? Did you ever figure out what the problem was?
John
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2011 - 01:49am PT
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Hi John, Thanks for asking. After having a CT and an MRI they found several issues involved in both of my kidneys-(not exactly sure what the story is will be going to a Urologist now) Did learn why I got so ill, ended up with a raging kidney infection and the initial antibiotics did not work.
Who would have thought a person could get so ill by this kind of infection.
Trying to get back into shape, can't believe how quickly one can lose fitness!
Not to sound like a hypochondriac but last night I had a really severe episode of chest pain, it hurt so bad I could only take very shallow breaths, it even hurt to move. I went to bed and had to lie perfectly still, was not able to go to sleep due to the pain for over an hour. If it had gotten any worse I would have called 911. Strange, not sure what to think of this. I will mention this to my MD just to be safe.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Oct 17, 2011 - 01:55am PT
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I have been learning over the last year just how messed up an infection can make you. I have been dealing with a deep infection in my tailbone. It has given me arthritis like conditions, plus breathing problems, along with all the regular things like fevers, chills, and night sweats.
So yep.. they can really mess with you.
Make sure you take probiotics. Your digestive system gets really out of whack on antibiotics and that can cause a host of problems in and of itself.
Good luck getting back into shape. I'm in shape.. haha.. round is a shape isn't it?
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