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Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Feb 2, 2018 - 08:50am PT
The Dems(Obama team and Clinton team) are involved in the biggest scandal this country has ever seen

The Dems suppport people and countries that support Sharia Law


Hey Jody

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 2, 2018 - 08:51am PT
This is why we call Judy a clown, a dupe, and all the other insults
He deserves it.
The Russian thing with Trump was completely fabricated to get an excuse for the opposition to spy on him during the campaign. When Trump surprisingly won, it was a colossal "Oh shiite" moment for the Obama and Clinton teams as they knew Trump would eventually figure it out. Therefore, they set out on a massive, reverse engineering of a crime that was never committed scheme that has continued to this day. The Dems(Obama team and Clinton team) are involved in the biggest scandal this country has ever seen and Watergate will pale in comparison when the truth comes out.
That is some of the stupidest stuff posted this year

Complete right wing propaganda, complete lies, complete right wing misinformation.

It makes zero sense and you have to be an idiot to believe these propagandists in this day and age\

Why not educate yourself with some facts?
Wouldn't you rather know the facts?

Carter Page was being investigated by the FBI for good reasons since 2013, way before Trump
Nuglet

Trad climber
Orange Murica!
Feb 2, 2018 - 09:12am PT
how about that FBI Jody?

love em or hate em????
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Feb 2, 2018 - 09:13am PT
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
Feb 2, 2018 - 09:13am PT
So the latest theory is that republicans appointed by the Trump administration illegally conspired to get a warrant to spy on someone so that they can bring down Trump?

As they say, conspiracies are rare but stupidity is pervasive!
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 2, 2018 - 09:26am PT
Why do they deny the fact that Republicans running against Trump started the Fusion GPS Trump investigation?

Hillary had nothing to do with it, nor Obama

So Judy's "makes sense" is BS, how can you link Hillary or Obama to the Steel dossier

It only makes sense if you want the facts to be wrong, which makes you a denier of the truth and personally prefer propaganda to facts
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 2, 2018 - 09:36am PT
The Whole Right Wing is in bed with Russia now.
They love Russia all of sudden...

I wonder why??
Maybe it's because they have the same mind set, love of authoritarians, corporate welfare, smashing heads of protesters and other undesirables

AND, Rupert Murdock may play a role, since he sets the stage for the propaganda that these right wingers digest, he's good buddies with Putin, what a coincidence!!!

Hannity is a Russian troll, getting conspiracy talking points straight from the KGB, they have made great progress on brain washing techniques to be used on the right wing dupes that just can't get enough kool aid

Trump, Carter Page, Rupert, Manafort, Rex Tillerson, Flynn
and the F-ing NRA were all in bed with Russia


Senator demands info on the NRA’s financial ties to Russia, including ‘shell companies’

In a pair of letters, Ron Wyden sets his sights on shell companies and real estate transactions.

The letters were prompted by a recent report from McClatchy noting that the FBI is investigating such links – especially as it pertains to the $30 million the NRA funneled to the Donald Trump campaign, money that came from an NRA arm that isn’t forced to disclose its donors.

https://thinkprogress.org/wyden-russia-nra-ties-a68c0e2a8768/
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 2, 2018 - 09:44am PT
They paid Fusion GPS, not Steel
Hillary nor Obama had no effect on what Fusion GPS investigated

FACT
Why does it matter who paid for the investigation?
The facts from the investigation is all that matters, facts are either good or bad for the person being investigated

And the facts say Trump colluded with Russia
Not Hillary or Obama
Nuglet

Trad climber
Orange Murica!
Feb 2, 2018 - 10:50am PT
he would have to be to still respect the FBI
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 2, 2018 - 11:12am PT
A memo based on evidence the writer did not read. Actually the writer, when asked, would not deny that the White House was involved in the creation of The Memo"

If the dems are smart they will not dignify this leak with another leak. They do not need to become like the republicans, treasonous scum
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 2, 2018 - 11:28am PT
Why do they deny the fact that Republicans running against Trump started the Fusion GPS Trump investigation?

Which Republicans?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 2, 2018 - 11:29am PT
It is so easy to say it is all false. got evidence of that? Will you be an admitted liar if you are wrong, or are you going to come up with some sort of Trumpish excuse, blame someone else.

So you know that Carter Page was not feeding intelligence to the Russians? Maybe we should revisit this after he starts singing like a bird and pleads guilty.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 2, 2018 - 11:37am PT
Jody, the most puzzling thing about your posts, as noted by others, is your vicious attacks against Law Enforcement. It must mean that you have inside information about how Law Enforcement is not to be trusted, cannot do impartial investigations, and will lie through their teeth under oath.

As a law enforcement man yourself, how do you know these things???

Presumably from personal experience......
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 2, 2018 - 12:05pm PT
In the CHP, that meant throwing officers under the bus

Craig Peyer, he really got screwed over, didn't he?
WBraun

climber
Feb 2, 2018 - 12:36pm PT
John McCain is one of the biggest aszholes in the US govt.

He's a huge treasonist and terrorist criminal.

And you brainwashed loons believe anything that nutcase says.

You are insane .....
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 2, 2018 - 01:18pm PT
So I read the memo - Looks like some in the GOP initiated Fusion, then stopped, and the DNC picked up. Looks like there is a ton of intermingling, and only confirms they are all shady bastards. Everyone of them.

Basically after year we know what everyone should have already known. Politicians are corrupt. What we still haven't seen is any direct collusion evidence other than the collusion to obtain information on a supposed Russian interference. (The explanation for the loss) This is where I think it get's funny. While the left literally lost their mind over this, in the last year, they fail to see how we do exactly the same thing as a country. See Ukraine. The CIA helped undermine that country, and your boy John McCain was heavily involved. All countries play this game and it should come as no surprise. But to say the people didn't vote for Hillary because of Russian help is pure lunacy.

Sucks to realize a year of outrage was based on a bunch of hooey.


But, as some have said it's all part of their plan to keep us divided and bickering about utter nonsense. Love it. It shows who has a level head and who does not.

Good summation.

Not just Ukraine... Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Cuba, etc etc etc.

Super-tardball this weekend! The woolly masses will forget about all this by Monday.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 2, 2018 - 01:27pm PT
Watching the GOP lackeys desperately trying to defend their clown prince is worth the price of admission.
John M

climber
Feb 2, 2018 - 01:34pm PT
But to say the people didn't vote for Hillary because of Russian help is pure lunacy.

If it plays a role in the outcomes of elections in other countries when we do it, then why wouldn't it work in America if Russians do it to us ?

the issues isn't entirely whether another country was trying to influence our election. That is an important issue. But there is another part to the issue. Whether Americans were working to help them, and whether those americans were part of one or both of the candidates parties, and how much the candidate played a role.

Its also one thing to try to dig up dirt, and an entirely different thing to spread misinformation. Digging up dirt is done by everyone, but if collusion can be shown in an effort to discredit someone with disinformation, then that would be a serious problem.

Thats why we have and need an investigation.
dirtbag

climber
Feb 2, 2018 - 01:35pm PT
The bigger question is not whether the memo is horsie caca (it is), but whether trump will use it as a pretext to purge Rosenstein, install a crony, and scuttle the investigation. That would actually be a pretty dangerous outcome.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 2, 2018 - 02:47pm PT
But, as some have said it's all part of their plan to keep us divided and bickering about utter nonsense.

Spot on.
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