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Happiegrrrl2
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But yeah, it's the Dems who have behaved childishly, whining and promoting smack talk.....
And we're just pissed that Hillary didn't win. We're just crybabies who can't handle the truth.
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Ballo
Trad climber
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is interested in adopting Russian orphans
Where is your source for this gem?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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That’s the funny thing! Didn’t the DNC hire an agency to dig up dirt on Trump? But............if someone agrees to meet someone who want to disclose dirt it’s ............
The difference, which you like to paper over, is that the Trump group attempted to do opposition research by using a foreign power, which is illegal.
Campaigns at that level ALWAYS do opposition research, but it is a totally different thing to seek assistance of a foreign power---particularly if one promises not to do something in return...like follow the sanctions law that Congress passed overwhelmingly. Just ignore the law, if your Russian deal demands it.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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jolly roger! /re one of your many posts on this thread:
Now take that statement in context of the possibility this whole russia thing is a bunch of hooey, and possible pushed by the Dems. See how funny you sound! The fact is there are no facts. Only that either someone is lieing or they all are.
I’d don’t personally care, but I do know there has been a bunch of emotion and name calling based off of unsubstantiated evidence, and I always love to see the vocal ones eat crow.
There's been a big jump in Russian posting on Twitter & other blog-sites recently.
Of course, I'd never accuse a Supertopoite like you, of being a paid Russian poster, but since you are "one of us," I'm just curious if they pay you by the word or by the post?
And if not, did you ever stop beating your dog?
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Ballo
Trad climber
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I can't believe people still think that dossier was legit. It was debunked within minutes. Even f*#king Newsweek debunked it.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I'm guessing the Republican retirements have more to do with sexual abuse than anything the FBI is working on.
The Great Shitlist Of Congressional Perverts & Payouts is yet to be made public, and I think the Republicans told their guys who are on that list they need to go sooner rather than later.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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The retirements and release of the memo dovetail in certain terms.
They're retiring to collect on quid-pro-quo in the form of cushy pay-off jobs (see Dick Cheney), cash payments via offshore accounts and insider stock tips...same as it ever was.
The memo, other than giving pretext to fire Rosenstein, lobs a warning shot to the FBI and the FISA courts not to target Republican politicians- why? Because ever since Citizens United, the Republicans have prostituted themselves for contributions from foreign governments (see Devin Nunes- the grand whore). These contributions have disproportionately come from Russia and China and disproportionately have gone to Republican congressman. This is the main reason they have formed a praetorian guard to protect the president.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Didn’t the DNC hire an agency to dig up dirt on Trump? But............if someone agrees to meet someone who want to disclose dirt it’s ............
No, they did not.
What actually happened is that the company Steele worked(s?) for was contracted from within the RNC, during primaries. He was annoying, a distraction from serious topics, and they wanted to flick the little bug off their table.
It was widely known that Donald Trump had business associates with mobsters of the Russian variety. Those guys are vicious, and make the Italian mob in the US look like a bunch of pantywaists by comparison. So it made perfect sense the choice of someone who had worked intelligence through Russians was a good choice to do research.
When Steel went to work, he came upon information that showed the election interference efforts.
He then TOOK THE INFORMATION DIRECTLY to John McCain - HANDED IT TO HIM PHYSICALLY - and expected action.
Surprised that nothing happened - he then went to the FBI.
And that, friends and Trumpeters, is why Donald Trump thinks the FBI hates him.
The Steel dossier contains disinformation, along with truthful points. He knew that, and relayed that fact. People who have studied Russian history will tell you that disseminating disinformation is a key pillar in their "messaging"(since some think this is an important thing to have). It is a big weapon in their war chest.
Look - go on watching the news channels that are telling you this is all an attempt by powerful Hillary Clinton and "The Democrats" to hobble Trump's efforts. But do yourselves a favor and at least TRY to widen your scope. Then, you can make a more educated analysis of what is going on.
For FUX sake, already. Do it. Please.
I do, whether you want to believe it or not. And YES, I have seen left-leaning reports that I can see have been spun, include incorrect information, are embarrassing in their obviously having been made by some person who knows that if you build it they will come. It angers me, because people blindly repeat it, and look like fools.
But this whole Trump=Russia thing is not a hoax. It is not sour grapes. It is not "an agenda" on the part of powerful anti-Trumpists. It is real, and it SHOULD have you fearful for all we have ever known as the United States.
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Ballo
Trad climber
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No, they did not.
Point of fact: they did.
After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information.
From that bastion of right-wing propaganda: The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/politics/steele-dossier-trump-expained.html
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dirtbag
climber
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Yes, the FBI, a well known and longstanding bastion of liberalism.
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Ballo
Trad climber
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liberalism
LOL, this word doesn't even exist in bureaucracies. Don't be ridiculous. This isn't about ideology.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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I don't care if you complain all day and night. Go for it.
Now you know how it felt for us to listen to GOPers railing about Obama for eight years non-stop.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jody, that's simple regurgitation of Republican talking points provided to you by state-run news.
The elitist media plots you rail against are actually born of disseminating information and disinformation across multiple informational platforms and then codifying through a Machiavellian lense (See Mark Twain).
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
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Out Of Bed
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The dizzyness you all show is astounding. There was and still is a concerted and devious effort to sow discontent partisanship and disgust in all things governmental. It is what we; this U.S of C.I.(A) did to the former soviet union. This includes the incredible need to build a wall? The opiod "crisis" A liquor store on every coner and a whole new version of the infection of the social fabric by pitting us against each other.That there is so much constant vitriol is what he was put into office to achieve. The deep state is the russians who saw a weak democratic engine on Idle, that they used, by "bots" (That are still all over my youtube feeds), to infiltrate the underpinnings of the grubbyment thru compromise. Then as things turned out the patsy/puppet won and Putin did too. It is a complex but clear pattern that the diposed super power is doing around the globe. There is no more Ukrain, and I would not want to be Polish.
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dirtbag
climber
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LOL, this word doesn't even exist in bureaucracies. Don't be ridiculous
You catch on quick...
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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I'm dizzy after that... :)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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It is a beautiful snowfall we are having, Dizzy, It was not meant as a derogatory comment just an obsevation. I have to feel for the poor and soon to be , it has been a long war. Im glad the outcome will be so black and white, pardon the pun
now where can I get some?
Vermont Mass a two schlitz? why would this con state wnt a black market?4
Can Fear write me a scrip?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Hey Jody?
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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What keeps me up at night is the way it is working. the communities that I have to interact with are also divided.
It may seem like that flag picture is of the most common, a garden variety shot. I'll ask of the fine photogs here, What do think? It is a Superior flutter, shows motion, and has balance? is this the Teach me how to take great pictures thread>?/
dizzy
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