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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 14, 2014 - 09:52pm PT
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It's horrible. Exactly what we need. An incinerator downtown!!??
It seems each proceeding government is worst than the next. How long can we continue down this path?
Right up there with the Brohm land grab for a resort which will never fly!
Even dogs don't sh!t where they eat!!
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MH2
climber
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Jan 14, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
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I always though the coolest thing to do would be ground level retail and 5 to 8 floor real estate with your balcony facing south, at water's edge, down Howe Sound for revitalizing the downtown.
Dream home away.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jan 14, 2014 - 10:33pm PT
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The gravel pit at McNab is gonna be a tiny little thing. Maximum 1/10th of the size of the Sechelt pit.
Not sure about the LNG thing because the pipeline to get gas there runs where? Below the Castle? That sounds really not safe.
Garbage incinerators are dumb anywhere.
Speaking of development tough, tonight's the last day to comment on the latest go around of the Garibaldi at Squamish land grab/condo pump and dump disguised as a ski development.
http://www.eao.gov.bc.ca/pcp/forms/garibaldi_at_squamish_form.html
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 14, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
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I hear sea to sky gondola corporation inc. is spearheading & organizing a huge protest against the garibaldi at Squamish development.
Thanks for the link oplopanax!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 14, 2014 - 11:41pm PT
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I knew you would have a slightly cryptic, but well timed, witty response Jim.
I have so much more to learn about trolling...........
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 15, 2014 - 01:12am PT
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Haha that's how you troll!!
On a totally different topic, anyone know anything about those crack systems to the left of cataract crags(i think that is what they are called) on the northern part of the campground wall?
There's a few different systems between a few ledges that eventually end up on turkey ledge below fight club to the right of Eurasian eyes. Anybody ever poke around in that area or know about existing routes? We were hiking around at the base yesterday thinking it would be a fun place to explore.
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Jan 15, 2014 - 01:15am PT
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Yes, Anders was working on an 'inside job', but now his cover is blown thanks to BK. Time for Plan B. This is where BK infiltrates the construction crew.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jan 15, 2014 - 11:47am PT
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I thought Boyd had freed the last aid sections on Mayday. I know even back in the day (80s) it had had an 112d crack in the middle freed around the time Jim Campbell was putting up runout 10s on the basalt spot face there.
That basalt spot-band is one of the coolest features on the Chief and it never gets any hype. Starts at ground level in the Bulletheads and runs up to Sports Illustrated and the Traverse of the Gods,
I think the spots on top of Centerfold are the same thing, just offset by some structural feature.
What can you tell us about our favorite xenoliths Glenn?
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MH2
climber
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Jan 15, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
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I climbed up through that region about 20 years ago, Ryan. We didn't have the guidebook with us but knew that it had a couple lines shown in the vicinity. There was a lot of vegetation and ledges sent us to the left. Towards the top there was more of a vertical line and a bolt right where I really wanted one, except about 5 inches too high. Being a highly intelligent type and concerned for my safety I discovered then and there that with the nut tool I could hook the eye of the bolt and then clip. We rapped, knowing nothing of the South Gully at the time.
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Tricouni
Mountain climber
Vancouver
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Jan 15, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
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That basalt spot-band is one of the coolest features on the Chief and it never gets any hype. Starts at ground level in the Bulletheads and runs up to Sports Illustrated and the Traverse of the Gods,
I think the spots on top of Centerfold are the same thing, just offset by some structural feature.
What can you tell us about our favorite xenoliths Glenn?
I think you are talking about that large band of dark blobs (inclusions, enclaves) that runs up and left from the Bulletheards (and it shows up in some roadcuts, as well). The general opinion is that these represent an injection of darker magma (basaltic/dioritic) into the lighter, granite/granodiorite magma that solidified to form the Chief. Granite magma has very high viscosity, perhaps similar to that of beeswax or silly putty. Basalt magma has a low viscosity, perhaos similar to ketchup. The basalt was probably injected into a fracture in the granite magma (think of water filling a crack in a flowing glacier). The magmas mingled to some extent, but were probably largely immicscible, giving rise to the blobby effect.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jan 15, 2014 - 01:57pm PT
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So that would have been an earlier basaltic injection than the Black Dyke, correct?
Are there any age samples from the xenoliths?
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 15, 2014 - 02:05pm PT
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Thanks for the info guys.
I agree, those big blobs are some of the more interesting features on the chief. Neat stuff.
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Tricouni
Mountain climber
Vancouver
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Jan 15, 2014 - 02:31pm PT
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No, no dates from the black blobs, and probably hard to get. But much older than the Black Dyke. Years ago I got a not-very-good date of about 35 million years for the Black Dyke (going from memory here), compared with something like 94 to 98 million years for the main granite of the Chief (again, going from memory).
The 35 Ma date is about the same as dates from the basalt/andesite at Queen Elizabeth Park (Little Mountain) in Vancouver and Sentinel Hill (West Vancouver).
You may have noticed several black dyes along the highway about 5 km north of Horseshoe Bay. These are about 90 million years (not a great date, analytically), in the same ballpark as the Chief granite.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jan 15, 2014 - 03:13pm PT
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Thanks for the date info Glenn.
Speaking of xenoliths, here's an odd-looking one from Slesse.
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Tricouni
Mountain climber
Vancouver
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Jan 15, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
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That one does look like some sort of partly digested wall rock. Curious elliptical weathering, though....
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Jan 15, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
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Cataract Crags?
Yer gunna die!!!!!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 15, 2014 - 09:52pm PT
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What's the recommended rack Hamie, sounds like you know something??
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Jan 15, 2014 - 09:55pm PT
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... a crime in some areas, basalt and attery...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 15, 2014 - 09:59pm PT
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You want weird sh#t embedded in the rock? We've got you covered. It's not Squamish, but not that far away. And sh#t howdy, it is weird to the max.
We gave Glenn a piece of the rock, and told him about the alien pod embedded in it, but I don't remember what he concluded. I think that when I touched it the alien seed took over my mind.
(The ascender is quite close to the camera. The pod is almost a meter high)
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jan 15, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
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Caramba crags? I think that's the jungle right of the badge with a slab underneath it that finishes up by the acrophobes.
Safe to say that any multipitch at Squamish with the word "crags" in the name will likely be adventurous.
I only ask Hamie his rack recommend for historical perspective Bruce, trying to work on my trolling remember. Cataract crags seems like a good place for trolls it would seem: dark, deep, vegetated & seldom visited it rarely sees the light of day. Prime habitat IMO.
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