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Lennox

climber

in the land of the blind

Jan 31, 2018 - 01:13pm PT

https://truthfultragedy.wordpress.com/2015/10/01/do-cops-truly-have-to-have-lower-iqs/

WBraun

climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 01:17pm PT

It's America. It's all entertainment

St00pid Americans.........

divad

Trad climber

wmass

Jan 31, 2018 - 01:19pm PT

What's entertaining is listening to someone who bangs porn stars take the moral high ground.

Ballo

Trad climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 01:35pm PT

Did Trump's team set up the optics of the Democrat response?

You may as well ask if Trump's team got the Democrats to run a corporate whore and quite possibly the most corrupt person alive to run against him.

Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 01:41pm PT

Barron was at the event, next to his mother.

StahlBro

Trad climber

San Diego, CA

Jan 31, 2018 - 01:44pm PT

A tRump supporter calling HC a "corporate whore"...

Oh the irony

NutAgain!

Trad climber

South Pasadena, CA

Jan 31, 2018 - 01:46pm PT

Lennox, that link is interesting. I suspect loyalty and obedience would be more desirable qualities in candidates, whereas intelligence could be seen as a risk factor leading to a person who questions orders and strategies and is not a team player.

Heyzeus

climber

Hollywood,Ca

Jan 31, 2018 - 02:17pm PT

The leaked memo xCon posted is hilarious.

Lennox

climber

in the land of the blind

Jan 31, 2018 - 02:28pm PT

Most police departments want applicants that have average IQ scores. The idea being that they will be less likely to become bored and either quit early (which would be a waste of the cost of training) or become corrupt.

The problem with that is pretty obvious. Average people are less likely to respond to difficult circumstances in above average ways. And as they rise through the ranks it is less likely that they, as leaders, will be able to create innovative solutions to old and new problems. They are more likely to believe that the best way to shut up those whiny, cop hating Black Lives Matter folks is to increase the beatings (and shootings) until morale improves.

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2018 - 03:20pm PT

I do not know. I try and to make sense out of things, but it can be confusing, so I have to rely on the natural judgment I was both with and my mother's good sense and advise.

Things are not right in America. Duh, it did not take a genius to figure that out. I look in and I see a very dysfunctional society. A polarized society. On one hand, being a 'diversive' society is welcomed, many minds thinking of many solutions, so to speak.

But diversive (follow on me this please) does not necessarily mean divided. Quite the opposite. Diversive minds tend to be cooperative, because they have looked at all the possible angles.

But a divided society? Trump, and I pick on him be he is POTUS and the face of America. He is not diversive, he is divisive. Counter with any false arguments if you well, but just look at his words and actions. That is not an unifying statesman.

He relies on division. He is a fool and yet his is no fool. Conundrum. He has never perfected the art of the deal, but what he has, with his handlers, has perfected the art of smoke and mirrors.

Trump supporters, the guy is pulling your tail. Yes, other politicians and ***(see below) have tried and or done it.

I have written nothing new, I may be preaching to the choir. But if I can even raise one thought of consciousness with those who think Trump is the 'biz', then maybe I have not failed.

I know you conservative people have your beliefs, dogma, ideals, etc etc etc and such. And they should be listened to, considered, that is democracy.

But blindly following an ideologue, who has not your interests or values at heart. Cannot you do better.?

EDIT

***(see below)

That was going to be a reference to Trump's past as well as some other politicians (Clintons included). But I am already flogging a dead horse.

Another Edit

Trump is a showman, no substance but a lot of thrills. He will see out his term, and various disasters will follow (domestic, foreign, economic). It is the nature of things, and bring a blowhard in the equation, you bet.

Is Trump evil, are turds evil? It is all in the perspective.

Folks, the world, us homo sapiens, we will do alright regardless of Trump, Putin, the Chinese and other human element. What I fear for is biodiversity. Kill that and we commit suicide.

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2018 - 03:53pm PT

This is beginning to piss me off.

I do not know the origins of the universe. A Big Bang or a Supreme Being? Do any of you really know?

I do not want bleeding Virgins statues as a claim. I want proof.

And it will not come? No, not in our lifetimes, not ever. Oh yes, Apocalypse or the rendering of humans, or RAPTURE.

What I do believe in, is to treat your fellow human decently.

Do so and you go with the grace of the… heavens.

You do so otherwise and you may reap some benefits, but what are they worth?

EDIT
Jody, your posts show you to be a disgrace to the human race and any person with a soul (your so-called Christian badge). It is not about liberals and conservatives, you fool. I have no time of you beyond this. Get a soul, get a conscience, then we can talk.

Jody, darn good photographer though, stick with that.

Larry Nelson

Social climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 04:23pm PT

Patrick posted
It is not about liberals and conservatives.

I gotta disagree on that Patrick. It's a tribalism that's as old as humanity and the truth is it's enemy.
Ultra partisans cannot humanize their opponents because the emotions rule the base of each party.

Jody, Patrick, Edit: I'm not pointing fingers at either of you guys.
You would love to read this book if you haven't already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Righteous_Mind

Here's Wiki on the Author
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Haidt

Patrick Sawyer

climber

Originally California, now Ireland

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2018 - 04:52pm PT

Yes Larry, you have some points and I followed the links.

But are any of us the be all and end all? Are any of us the definitive answer. Can we be wrong?

This, questioning, wondering, it's what keeps the human a separate species special - homo sapiens, and if one believes in scientific methods (and not creationism), perhaps the Neanderthals also ventured forth and met the Sapiens, their brute and brawn, melding with the reason and more "logical" ( a better word help me out scientists) thought process.

If one discounts that man arose from Eve before Disney sequels, and that R2D2 was a mutant, there may be something called evolution. I cross my heart as a good ex-Catholic, as God is ever knowing (thank you for the pestilence, misery and wars).

Regardless, what we are witnessing today, is sad. the demise of America and the rise of A NEW AMERICA. Thanks Donald we needed that ,you are such the saviour. Can I kiss your balls?

Edit

This, questioning, wondering, it's what keeps the human a separate species special

WRONG!

No, I am so stupid to phrase it that way. Such the arrogant human. Elephants, dolphins, I wonder if some are smarter than some of us.

I am a trained zoologist (just make my living, sort to, as a writer). Every creature I have ever studied, they seek "intelligence", a better way to survive. They are smart. It is innate.

I wish the same could be said of some Supertopians. But you know, Trump will past, his horses hit will go to ground, America is too strong for such and as#@&%e.

Fire back to me and I do not care. Trump is yours not mine. Deal with the consequences, but remember he is riding on a real economic wave not of his doing.

dirtbag

climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 05:10pm PT

One party is doing far more to stoke partisan tribalism.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Jan 31, 2018 - 06:07pm PT

Donald Trump's job approval rating has bounced back from the record low registered in last month's Monmouth University Poll , as more Americans now see the president as having achieved some legislative success. The poll finds that support for the recently passed tax reform plan has increased and Republicans have made gains in the generic House ballot test.

Pres. Trump's job rating now stands at 42% approve and 50% disapprove. While his net rating continues to dwell in negative territory, this is an improvement from his December low of 32% approve and 56% disapprove. The current results mark a return to the ratings he received in the late summer and early fall of 2017. Positive signs for Trump include an uptick in public opinion that he has been successful in moving his agenda through Congress and increasing support for the recently enacted tax reform plan.

A majority (55%) of Americans say that Trump has been at least somewhat successful at getting Congress to pass his legislative agenda, while 41% say he has not been successful. This marks a reversal from December - before the tax reform bill was approved - when only 42% said Trump had been successful with Congress and 53% said he had not been successful....

In a look ahead to 2018, Democrats currently hold a negligible edge on the generic Congress ballot. If the election for House of Representatives were held today, 47% of registered voters say they would vote for or lean toward voting for the Democratic candidate in their district compared to 45% who would support the Republican. This marks a dramatic shift from last month, when Democrats held a 15 point advantage on the generic ballot (51% to 36%).

"The generic Congressional ballot is prone to bouncing around for a bit until the campaign really gets underway later this year. But Democrats who counted on riding public hostility toward the tax bill to retake the House may have to rethink that strategy," said Murray.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_013118/

Larry Nelson

Social climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 06:17pm PT

Hey Patrick,
Nobody is the be all and end all.
I get to laugh sometimes at Werner's posts. They seem so simplistic and off the wall. But think about it.
While partisan's thrash about in the deep weeds of politics, Werner's perspective is from out of the weeds.

I'm not religious myself, but I do not believe scientific methods and religious beliefs are mutually exclusive.

To me, the political divide in America is the last gasp of the 60's cultural revolution playing out.
I'm not a Trump fan, but I don't lose sleep over his twitter antics.
Sometimes I think his tweets are the laser pointer for opposition partisans to chase the red dot.

Check this graphic out for the summation of human history.

Yury

Mountain climber

T.O.

Jan 31, 2018 - 06:25pm PT

Patrick Sawyer:
America is ripe for a civil war, Putin and the Chinese would love it.

Patrick, the opposite is true.
Civil war in a country with so many nuclear weapons is their biggest nightmare.

It should be obvious for you if you can spend several minutes actually thinking.

Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 07:07pm PT

That was 12 yr. old Preston Sharp from Redding Ca.,

Oh - I didn't realize. When I clicked to see the speech, it was already started, and his story must have been before.

Larry Nelson

Social climber

Jan 31, 2018 - 07:28pm PT

divad posted
What's entertaining is listening to someone who bangs porn stars take the moral high ground

LOL, that is true.
It also applies to most of the movie, music and sports establishments, where politics has infested what used to be an escape from it.
Besides, I don't think Trump was nominated and elected based on his morality. That horse left the barn long ago.