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HighDesertDJ

Trad climber

Jul 13, 2016 - 05:15am PT

Escopeta posted

Still not answering the question. Its sad that you keep up the argument when you can't even come to grips with your own dissonance.

You know the answer as well as I do, but if you admit it your whole argument goes to hell. Its funny watching you avoid it though.

Maybe come back when you have a cogent argument that hasn't already been rebutted instead of pretending your imaginary one is so amazing?

Gary

Social climber

Where in the hell is Major Kong?

Jul 13, 2016 - 05:25am PT

In 1920? A lot better at the end than when they started.

C'mon, Kris! You get my point. Was it a well-armed Polish citizenry that through out the Soviets? No. It was solidarity, something more powerful than any gun.

The point is guns don't make you free.

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jul 13, 2016 - 05:27am PT

Rebutted how? Its not my fault that your stance on the issue has holes.

If there is absolutely no value in the 2nd Amendment from the perspective of protection against tyranny, then your answer should be an easy one.

For the record, the hypothetical question asked was - "If the US suddenly had a dictator that for whatever reason the US armed forces were completely supportive of and used the entire strength of the our military might to support this dictator......how long would the dictator live?

You won't answer it because you know that regardless of whether the Malheur Militia Retards were on board with the dictator, he still wouldn't survive. And you know it.

But you, and others, won't admit it because it doesn't jive with your silly anti-gun, pro racism agenda.

Gary

Social climber

Where in the hell is Major Kong?

Jul 13, 2016 - 05:38am PT

For the record, the hypothetical question asked was - "If the US suddenly had a dictator that for whatever reason the US armed forces were completely supportive of and used the entire strength of the our military might to support this dictator......how long would the dictator live?

Probably a long time as he'd have the full support of the NRA, open carry kooks and the rest of the gun nuts as well.

So, there, Esco, I've answered your question. Will you answer mine? Was it guns that made Poland free?

No, it was a labor union.

edit: congratulations to PotatoHead whose last diatribe of insults got the Politapocalypse thread locked. Now there's no quarantine thread for us politards.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jul 13, 2016 - 07:33am PT

Now, Gary, as tempting as it is to embrace the feel good story the more comprehensive
answer would be that the Soviet Union's endemic rot reduced its credibility and fear factor to
the point that dissolution was virtually spontaneous. Thankfully, guns were not needed, for
the most part. But now that a more efficient and sinister system is in place guns may become
necessary, if only to protect the Baltic states and Finland. But we digress.

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jul 13, 2016 - 07:59am PT

Probably a long time as he'd have the full support of the NRA, open carry kooks and the rest of the gun nuts as well.

Really, a long time as in a week? Because a dictator in this country wouldn't last three days from the coup. And that's just due to travel time to get within a mile or so from said dictator.

And if you think that solidarity is what solved Polands problems then great, but in the case of a dictator or an invading force, I think I'd rather have a gun and thankyouverymuch for not making that choice for me.

I'm not trying to force a gun into your hand so don't force me to rely solely on solidarity as a means for defense.

It's really that simple. All I'm asking for is that a choice NOT be made for me.

The human quality of being able to disagree with someone while recognizing their right to make their own choices in life is becoming a scare commodity. And it's all but extinct in the context of people using the government to expand and fill the cracks and crevices of control that might pop up from time to time.