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grunter
Social climber
confusion
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Yes, I am absolutely sure Barstow is a very important place. Just as my armpit is a very important place to me
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Are you kidding?
have you seen the clip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwyKBvZ2vgQ
they tookonly 60 seconds to get from initial contact to full taser, and the guy never left his seat, what's more, you can see they made that decision only 20+ seconds in.
what's going on there is that the police are not even trying to de-escalate anything, they are using brute force instead of any other form of training. what has this guy done? been rude? fine, he's an ass, you can negotiate with him, you can use skills than can be trained and learned, the taser should be deployed when a subject cannot be reasoned with and is a clear and present danger, not before.
the guy was taserd for not being compliant upon initial contact.
i am against that, and no, i am not kidding.
you think this makes cops safer?
i say it makes a certain segment of the public feel like the cops are even more of a threat, and thus it puts cops in danger, it's a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts.
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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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Warbler!
Good eyes Kevin.
Yes, that's Beardman/Tommy Bruso, the Viet Nam vet.
The dude seems to have a penchant/inclination for dissident aggression.
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WBraun
climber
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All you wankers are light!
Only bad ass dudes get to get Tased!
It's a great honor to be in the "I got Tased Club".
Join now!!! Become bad ass.
And .... don't be late ......
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Fall of Icarus - Henri Matisse
"Don't taze me, Helios!"
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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this us great, Jack Cover, inventor of the taser, studied from the same guy who gave us another wonderful invention, the atomic bomb! yipee!
Jack Cover was born in New York City on April 6, 1920, and grew up in Chicago.[1] He earned a bachelor's degree and a doctorate in nuclear physics at the University of Chicago[1], studying under Enrico Fermi
Fermi is widely regarded as one of the leading scientists of the 20th century, highly accomplished in both theory and experiment.[1] Along with J. Robert Oppenheimer,[2] he is frequently referred to as "the father of the atomic bomb"
Thanks Jack!
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Clovis, CA
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The rationale of cops have a hard job, are under a lot of stress, etc. does not excuse the use of harsher methods to enforce the law. If you can't handle the job, then find a new one.
With the increase in use of tasers, from the videos I've seen, it seems that LEOs are getting lazier. Not in all cases, but seriously, if an LEO is unsure if they can subdue a person, call for backup, then take em down.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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lets give jack a little taste of his own medicine,
here jack, try this out,
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Base, pretty fast when they come after you, yippie!
What about all your gear, thousands of dollars lost when they confiscate?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, brokendownclimber.... as to what you posted, i just took a bit here, for referernce:
The LEO then tasered the driver who couldn't hear due to being hearing impaired! His hearing aid had been turned off due to the racket generated by the old engine.
thanks very kindly for sharing this.... these folks rarely get their story told, much farther than out of town....
or even IN town, in some cases....
others really do need to understand about this, too...
god bless...
:)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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My mom was a student of Enrico Fermi at the UoC, and she couldn't tell you how a wheelbarrow worked.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Watched LV Jail last night on TRU Tv
Amazeing and disturbing look at how the other half lives.. there are many people out there who have really made some horrible choices in their lifes.
Amyways the show is basicly just the process of betting booked into county jail in LV NV
Seems like all the guards and other officers were as polite and fair as possible with the incomeing inmates with the exception of one bald headded meathead guard who has serious ego problems and needs to force his will onto the inmates. Interesting to watch but depressing at the same time.
The thing that gets hammered home time and again is just don't balk talk the meatheads. It will get you no where fast.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Well TMC.
I had some reeeeeeealy bad experiences during my 30 hours in Clark County Detention after defying the rangers by climbing in Valley Of Fire.
That said, they weren't all bad, and in fact, after looking through my file and talking to me, one of the COs actually told me that I ought to get a good lawyer and sue them.
I did.
And won.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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You must have gotten that bald headded bastard! I swear he should be wearing an orange jumpsuit instead of a uniform! the rest of the ones they feature on the show seem pretty decent.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Wasn't just one.
My 25 page complaint was later also used in another civil rights lawsuit by an inmate who was kicked by a CO so hard a colostomy was required.
(among other things I had been kicked in the head while on the floor)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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$9K
Long story, bottom line; next time I would tell the judge that the money was secondary to seeing that there was no double standard for the officers.
But, of course, there was.
But I got the satisfaction of seeing my lawsuit support the subsequent complaint which cost them MAJOR bucks.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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fatty, the 4-20 has really screwed up your short term memory, thats like #19,
i am moving on, nothing left to vent, i am now back in present time along life's time track,
not stuck in an incident.
if you want a happy life, avoid getting stuck in an incident,
keep the tape running,
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