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Norton
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Dec 18, 2016 - 09:52am PT
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The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth
The earth is only a few thousand years old. That’s a fact, plainly revealed in God’s Word. So we should expect to find plenty of evidence for its youth. And that’s what we find—in the earth’s geology, biology, paleontology, and even astronomy.
Literally hundreds of dating methods could be used to attempt an estimate of the earth’s age, and the vast majority of them point to a much younger earth than the 4.5 billion years claimed by secularists. The following series of articles presents what Answers in Genesis researchers picked as the ten best scientific evidences that contradict billions of years and confirm a relatively young earth and universe.
Despite this wealth of evidence, it is important to understand that, from the perspective of observational science, no one can prove absolutely how young (or old) the universe is. Only one dating method is absolutely reliable—a witness who doesn’t lie, who has all evidence, and who can reveal to us when the universe began!
And we do have such a witness—the God of the Bible! He has given us a specific history, beginning with the six days of Creation and followed by detailed genealogies that allow us to determine when the universe began. Based on this history, the beginning was only about six thousand years ago (about four thousand years from Creation to Christ).
https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/the-10-best-evidences-from-science-that-confirm-a-young-earth/
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Dec 18, 2016 - 12:32pm PT
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^^^^^
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
I am so incredibly tired of hearing about God, spiritual mumbo jumbo, and all of the othe supernatural bullshit that people heap upon each other in the hopes of trying to figure out why they exist and to validate their own lifelong struggles to do so.
Consequently, I have decided to cancel my membership to the human race. Please see here my official letter of resignation;
My Letter of Resignation from the Human Race
To whom it may concern and/or
Dear fellow humans,
Multiple times throughout the course of human history
Humanity has fallen victim to its own violent tendencies
And it's propensity for abject ignorance
In men's pursuit of power
And it's need to validate it's own horrific actions
In the name of religion, destiny, or biology
But due to the most recent increase of late
Of the mounting stupidity of those of our kind
Please cancel my membership
To the human race
And cancel my subscription
To the magazine also
Keep the deposit I sent just last week
But good look cashing it
For I have cashed out and have retreated
To a hole in the side of a mountain
At the furthest corner of the planet that is habitable
To await my inevitable demise
For I am loathe to witness or be a party to
The extinction level atrocity
Which you so rapidly are approaching
And to which you are hellbent to visit upon yourselves
-PaLise Leif Meeout Offit
12/18/2016
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Dec 18, 2016 - 01:38pm PT
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John 18:36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.” 37 Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”
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Flip Flop
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Earth Planet, Universe
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Dec 18, 2016 - 04:50pm PT
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Because religious people indoctrinate their children with terroristic threats. That's the whole Bible story. Nothing else. Believe my fancy creation mythology or suffer eternal torture by your savior.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Dec 18, 2016 - 07:51pm PT
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Unless you're taught about what you gain, not what you are trying to avoid. Like a friends says, heaven and hell don't even need to be part of the conversation.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Dec 19, 2016 - 08:35am PT
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When people reach the "bottom of the cup", to use your terms. I see it as a time when people are exploring with more than their eyes and ears..💙
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 19, 2016 - 09:18am PT
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A VERY hopefull statistic....in just five years the number of Americans thirty and under who say they never doubt the existence of god has dropped 15% from 83% to 68%. They are the future and it seems that among them reason and logic are gaining over superstition and tradition.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Dec 19, 2016 - 09:48am PT
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John 1
The Deity of Jesus Christ
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
The Witness John
6 There came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light.
9 There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man.10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
The Word Made Flesh
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John testified about Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.’” 16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.
...The reason for the season!
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Dec 21, 2016 - 09:10am PT
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Our True Identity
Ephesians 1:3-8
When I hear a believer say, “I’m just a sinner,” I feel like responding, “That’s what you used to be.” A lot of folks cling to a view of themselves as a patched-up, slightly-better-than-before version of their old self. The Word of God contradicts that opinion: “If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come” (2 Cor. 5:17). In fact, according to Scripture, we’re dramatically different once we are complete in the Lord.
The question is, Will Christians trust in what they feel, or will they believe what God says about them? His Word calls us saints (Rom. 1:7), disciples (John 13:34-35), and fellow heirs with Christ (Rom. 8:17). If your opinion is that you are “just a sinner,” then you cannot fully experience and enjoy your identity as a follower of God.
Believing what the Lord says about our new self is a choice. Satan certainly schemes to convince believers that Scripture doesn’t apply to them. He knows that people held captive by spiritual poverty back away from opportunities to share the gospel and serve God’s kingdom. It’s much easier to spiritually bankrupt someone who already thinks of himself as “just a sinner” than it is to conquer a disciple who knows he is a child of the loving heavenly Father.
Our true identity is defined not by our past actions but by the Savior’s. Jesus purchased our lives with His blood and brought us into relationship with the Father, who adopted us as His beloved children. We have every reason to hold our heads high, stand firm, and courageously proclaim the gospel. https://www.intouch.org/read/magazine/daily-devotions/our-true-identity
...Jesus made me do it! ; )
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Dec 21, 2016 - 10:08am PT
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Gobi,
I am trying to respect your right to believe what you believe, that it must comfort you, and I mean not to disparage you for it. But I believe in taking the 'heat,' so to speak, by taking full responsibility or blame for my part in whatever mistakes I have made in this life. I believe that I have this one life, a brain and a physical biology, that I have no soul, and there is no hereafter.
I believe there is no overseer, or god if you will, and only our consciousnesses, which for me is myself looking at the world, and at myself. A soul? I believe it is my brain acting as my conscience, which I choose to listen to (hopefully when it is overbearingly logical) or not listen to it (when it is overbearingly emotional).
I've read some of the scripture when you post it, but mostly not, I would rather hear your personal 'take' on this discussion rather than 'rote' quotes from the bible, which I read several times cover to cover along with the Encyclopedia Brittanica and the Webster's New World Dictionary by age 12. After which, due to my own life experiences, I rejected religion and the idea of 'God' outright. Please tell us more about your opinions.
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WBraun
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Dec 21, 2016 - 10:52am PT
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No one points to their head when they say "I" but always to their heart which is the seat of the soul, which is the real living being within the material body.
When we make mistakes we point to our heads.
Believing is ultimately worthless .
The absolute truth is the only real science .......
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Byran
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Half Dome Village
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Dec 21, 2016 - 11:05am PT
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That's why you should always aim for center of mass. It's not enough to hit them in the head, you got to shoot them in the soul!
Though it makes you wonder, if someone receives a heart transplant, who's soul gets control of the body? The donor or recipient?
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 21, 2016 - 11:17am PT
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Soul is eternally indestructible, but when the the heart stops or is damaged beyond repair the soul will leave the gross physical material body.
This why the light in the eyes leaves at the time the soul leaves the material body which we call "death".
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Byran
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Half Dome Village
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Dec 21, 2016 - 11:47am PT
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when the the heart stops or is damaged beyond repair the soul will leave the gross physical material body.
So the patient loses their soul when they remove the failing heart, and the organ donor gets to live on in a new body. Got it.
Edit: Oh wait, I forgot about those mechanical hearts they sometimes put in people. The NIH really needs to update their FAQ "What To Expect After Total Artificial Heart Surgery" to include a section on "loss of soul".
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/tah/after
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WBraun
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Dec 21, 2016 - 11:55am PT
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No
The the organ donor goes on to be reborn according to the consciousness it has developed in its present life.
The heart transplant patient gets the organ donor's physical heart and re-enters that replaced heart to go on living unless not allowed.
The not allowed part is very difficult to be explained here and easily misinterpreted and abused by those in poor fund of knowledge.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Dec 21, 2016 - 03:16pm PT
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Werner- you got some secret stash of Sunshine you've been holding out?
Bushman- exactly!
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Dec 21, 2016 - 07:40pm PT
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Donini: They are the future and it seems that among them reason and logic are gaining over superstition and tradition.
Everything comes and goes within phases. Nothing truly repeats.
At the moment reason and logic might be gaining over superstition and tradition, but I’d be hesitant to bet against the status quo at any point. You’re taking chances. With that said, I admit that everything is transient.
Whatever good you can imagine can be turned to the dark side. You KNOW this.
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Gunks Guy
Trad climber
New Paltz, NY
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Dec 21, 2016 - 08:15pm PT
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The only thing that will reverse the inexorable trend away from a belief in deities is some catastrophic event that reverses the constant, albeit inconsistent, march of science and rationality. The more educated a society is, the less it needs gods to explain or justify its existence.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Dec 29, 2016 - 10:55am PT
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"Hitherto hath the Lord helped us."
1 Samuel 7:12
The word "hitherto" seems like a hand pointing in the direction of the past. Twenty years or seventy, and yet, "hitherto the Lord hath helped!" Through poverty, through wealth, through sickness, through health, at home, abroad, on the land, on the sea, in honour, in dishonour, in perplexity, in joy, in trial, in triumph, in prayer, in temptation, "hitherto hath the Lord helped us!" We delight to look down a long avenue of trees. It is delightful to gaze from end to end of the long vista, a sort of verdant temple, with its branching pillars and its arches of leaves; even so look down the long aisles of your years, at the green boughs of mercy overhead, and the strong pillars of lovingkindness and faithfulness which bear up your joys. Are there no birds in yonder branches singing? Surely there must be many, and they all sing of mercy received "hitherto."
But the word also points forward. For when a man gets up to a certain mark and writes "hitherto," he is not yet at the end, there is still a distance to be traversed. More trials, more joys; more temptations, more triumphs; more prayers, more answers; more toils, more strength; more fights, more victories; and then come sickness, old age, disease, death. Is it over now? No! there is more yet-awakening in Jesus' likeness, thrones, harps, songs, psalms, white raiment, the face of Jesus, the society of saints, the glory of God, the fulness of eternity, the infinity of bliss. O be of good courage, believer, and with grateful confidence raise thy "Ebenezer," for--
He who hath helped thee hitherto
Will help thee all thy journey through.
When read in heaven's light how glorious and marvellous a prospect will thy "hitherto" unfold to thy grateful eye!
CHARLES SPURGEON
...for thou art with me!
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