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i-b-goB
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Wise Acres
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Nov 22, 2016 - 02:56pm PT
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New Birth: God’s Part
John 3:9-13
Ever since the original transgression of Adam and Eve in Genesis, all of mankind has been born with a sinful nature, and our sin creates a chasm separating us from our holy, perfect God. To be able to commune with Him, we must be born again, which is the way we receive a new nature, a new spirit, and a new eternal destiny.
Spiritual rebirth is a miraculous work of the Holy Spirit—He doesn’t simply freshen up our old nature but instead brings about a radical transformation, creating a brand-new spirit and life. As 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, “If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature” (emphasis added). As a result, believers can worship, praise, and serve the living God out of genuine love and devotion to Him.
God’s part in this rebirth involves forgiving us of our sins, and to do that, He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross as our substitute. In that way, Jesus paid our sin debt in full. He is our sacrifice—that is, He is the one who suffered vicariously on our behalf.
Our Savior’s substitutionary atonement is the means by which a holy and righteous God forgives sin and makes us holy like Himself. Our cleansing doesn’t come from being religious, or even from confession of sin and repentance. Rather, it comes from the blood that Jesus shed on the cross at Calvary. When we believe that He died to pay the penalty we owed and then accept His sacrifice on our behalf, we are forgiven of our sins and God wipes them away (Eph. 1:7 ).
https://www.intouch.org/read/magazine/daily-devotions/new-birth-gods-part
Psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
...God took care of the east, west, north, and south by sending Jesus!
But we will go SOUTH with an H without Him!
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sandstone conglomerate
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sharon conglomerate central
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Nov 22, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
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bet you're a lot of fun at parties
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Norton
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Nov 22, 2016 - 03:35pm PT
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There is no real evidence, either in the Bible or in science, for evolution
keep saying that Gobee, over and over while tapping your shoes together and it will come true
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i-b-goB
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Wise Acres
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Nov 22, 2016 - 05:59pm PT
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Hey Norton my friend evolution is a nonissue because God didn't say believe in evolution but in Jesus!
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i-b-goB
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Wise Acres
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Nov 23, 2016 - 09:51am PT
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"The power of his resurrection."
Philippians 3:10
The doctrine of a risen Saviour is exceedingly precious. The resurrection is the corner-stone of the entire building of Christianity. It is the key-stone of the arch of our salvation. It would take a volume to set forth all the streams of living water which flow from this one sacred source, the resurrection of our dear Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ; but to know that he has risen, and to have fellowship with him as such--communing with the risen Saviour by possessing a risen life--seeing him leave the tomb by leaving the tomb of worldliness ourselves, this is even still more precious. The doctrine is the basis of the experience, but as the flower is more lovely than the root, so is the experience of fellowship with the risen Saviour more lovely than the doctrine itself. I would have you believe that Christ rose from the dead so as to sing of it, and derive all the consolation which it is possible for you to extract from this well-ascertained and well-witnessed fact; but I beseech you, rest not contented even there. Though you cannot, like the disciples, see him visibly, yet I bid you aspire to see Christ Jesus by the eye of faith; and though, like Mary Magdalene, you may not "touch" him, yet may you be privileged to converse with him, and to know that he is risen, you yourselves being risen in him to newness of life. To know a crucified Saviour as having crucified all my sins, is a high degree of knowledge; but to know a risen Saviour as having justified me, and to realize that he has bestowed upon me new life, having given me to be a new creature through his own newness of life, this is a noble style of experience: short of it, none ought to rest satisfied. May you both "know him, and the power of his resurrection." Why should souls who are quickened with Jesus, wear the grave-clothes of worldliness and unbelief? Rise, for the Lord is risen.
CHARLES SPURGEON
...I LUV CHUCKY!
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BASE104
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An Oil Field
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Nov 23, 2016 - 01:27pm PT
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I've been a Petroleum Geologist for almost 30 years. I have to learn the stratigraphy of many areas. Right now, I'm dating a Palynology collection via stratigraphy. Palynology is the study of spores and pollen.
So I've looked at rocks for decades.
The other morning, the TV was on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, home of Pat Robertson and the 700 Club, among others.
They had a 30 minute segment on Creationist "Science," and had an "expert" explain how all of the strata exposed in the Grand Canyon were laid down in a single day. Then he told some big whoppers about Carbon 14 dating.
That is not the story that the rocks tell. Not even close. I've seen some fairly spirited debates about Intelligent Design vs. Evolution, but this guy wasn't even close. He was telling bald lies.
I guess that it is important to Religion that a Creator exists. All of the evidence that there was not a creator, that there are only natural processes, is overwhelming. If there was a Creator, he took his time about it. There is no evidence of a global flood. There are countless examples of transition species in the fossil record.
If you look at the rock record, and add the fossil record to it, the story is that the planet is incredibly old. Time so deep that most people can't even grasp it. We see no evidence for a 7 day creation.
Everything points to an old Earth, and Cosmology points to an old Universe.
To accept the account in Genesis, you have to ignore the incredible amount of study that has gone into dating and understanding not just the Earth, but the whole Universe.
It would be much simpler if it all fit into a 7 day creation, trust me, but that is not the story that nature shouts.
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couchmaster
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Nov 23, 2016 - 01:38pm PT
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Hey Base104, anyone having to resort to dating a Palynology collection must be pretty damned lonely. Get yerself onto OK cupid, Match.com or Eharmony man, we're worried about you. I suppose it's still better than dating sheep like some of us other Hayseeds though.
Ref quote - "Right now, I'm dating a Palynology collection"
Carry on!
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Nov 24, 2016 - 09:50am PT
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Fullness of Blessing
by Henry M. Morris, Ph.D.
“And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.” (Romans 15:29)
One beautiful characteristic of life in Christ is its fullness. Jesus Christ is Himself “the fullness of him that filleth all in all” (Ephesians 1:23), and He does everything to the full! When He fed the multitude, there were 12 baskets left over (John 6:13); when He brought in the miraculous catch of fishes, the nets were so full that they broke, and the boats so full they began to sink (Luke 5:6-7).
First of all, He gives fullness of grace. “And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace” (John 1:16). Then comes fullness of joy and peace: “These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full” (John 15:11). “Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing” (Romans 15:13).
It is then possible—in fact, we are commanded—to be “filled with the Spirit . . . making melody in your heart to the Lord” (Ephesians 5:18-19). Not only does the Holy Spirit indwell us, but so do the Father and the Son, by the Spirit. Jesus said: “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him” (John 14:23). In this way, the triune God indwells us, and thereby we “know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that [we] might be filled with all the fullness of God” (Ephesians 3:19).
All the fullness of God! In Jesus Christ “dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him” (Colossians 2:9-10), “for it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell” (Colossians 1:19). With the resources of such fullness of blessing available to us, we should be constantly growing “unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ” (Ephesians 4:13). HMM http://www.icr.org/article/9620/
Luke 6:38 Give, and it will be given to you. They will pour into your lap a good measure—pressed down, shaken together, and running over. For by your standard of measure it will be measured to you in return.”
...Double down goodness!
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 24, 2016 - 10:07am PT
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LMAO at how evangelically the anti-theists proselytize. They believe in evolution but
don't believe that Hillary lost.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Nov 30, 2016 - 10:25am PT
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Enjoying Life
Ecclesiastes 2:1-23
Not only was King Solomon the wisest man who ever lived (1 Kings 3:12); he was also blessed with wealth beyond imagination and the privilege of building God’s temple. So we might expect him to know deep contentment.
In searching for that profound fulfillment, Solomon devoted himself to exploring all kinds of things. Ecclesiastes tells us that he indulged in the pleasures of the world, even dabbling in pursuits he recognized as folly to see if there was anything worthwhile in them. But the satisfaction Solomon sought evaded him, and he concluded that self-indulgence was without value.
To feel content, the king tried another avenue: personal achievement. He undertook great projects, such as building houses for himself, improving the environment with gardens and parks, and carrying out an extensive irrigation project (Eccl. 2:4-6). The king had everything he could ever need to enjoy life, but in the end, he concluded it was all without meaning.
The story has a familiar ring, doesn’t it? Our world has many highly educated and successful people, but there is also much dissatisfaction. Our culture pursues pleasure and does not accept limits on its passions. Sadly, such lack of restraint has ruined countless lives.
Solomon possessed the wisdom and resources to accomplish whatever he decided to do. Yet the goals that he pursued brought no lasting contentment. He concluded that the best course was to obey God (Eccl. 12:13). True enjoyment comes only when we align ourselves with His will. Any other way is meaningless.
Liberty Versus License
November 30, 2016
Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
Philippians 4:8
Recommended Reading: 1 Peter 2:15-16
Parents teach children about boundaries: moral, ethical, legal, courtesy, and safety boundaries. Boundaries are established because of man’s propensity to sin: “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9) Fortunately, the boundaries that surround what is true, noble, just, pure, lovely, of good report, virtuous, and praiseworthy are huge—seemingly limitless.
We can spend a lifetime pursuing things that are pleasing to God without running out of options. The danger is the heart: The heart wants to turn liberty into license. The heart says, “I’m free to do what I want!” But God says, “You’re free to do what I want.” And once we realize how big that freedom is, it’s hard to want anything more.
Don’t confuse liberty in Christ with license for carnality. A lot of things are possible in life that are not edifying or wise (1 Corinthians 10:23).
Freedom is not the right to do as you please; it is the liberty to do as you ought.
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eeyonkee
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Golden, CO
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Nov 30, 2016 - 11:51am PT
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I'll take license for carnality, thank you very much.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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"O that men would praise the Lord for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men."
Psalm 107:8
If we complained less, and praised more, we should be happier, and God would be more glorified. Let us daily praise God for common mercies--common as we frequently call them, and yet so priceless, that when deprived of them we are ready to perish. Let us bless God for the eyes with which we behold the sun, for the health and strength to walk abroad, for the bread we eat, for the raiment we wear. Let us praise him that we are not cast out among the hopeless, or confined amongst the guilty; let us thank him for liberty, for friends, for family associations and comforts; let us praise him, in fact, for everything which we receive from his bounteous hand, for we deserve little, and yet are most plenteously endowed. But, beloved, the sweetest and the loudest note in our songs of praise should be of redeeming love. God's redeeming acts towards his chosen are forever the favourite themes of their praise. If we know what redemption means, let us not withhold our sonnets of thanksgiving. We have been redeemed from the power of our corruptions, uplifted from the depth of sin in which we were naturally plunged. We have been led to the cross of Christ--our shackles of guilt have been broken off; we are no longer slaves, but children of the living God, and can antedate the period when we shall be presented before the throne without spot or wrinkle or any such thing. Even now by faith we wave the palm-branch and wrap ourselves about with the fair linen which is to be our everlasting array, and shall we not unceasingly give thanks to the Lord our Redeemer? Child of God, canst thou be silent? Awake, awake, ye inheritors of glory, and lead your captivity captive, as ye cry with David, "Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name." Let the new month begin with new songs.
CHARLES SPURGEON
...God is Good!
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Bushman
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The state of quantum flux
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"You are going to what you want to, if that's what you think you need to do."
One of the greatest hypocrisies in religion today is is the fact that believers rely upon science for 99% of their survival along with the rest of us non believers. There's no denying it. Scientist using scientific theories and the scientific methods have developed the life enhancing and life destroying inventions, devices, machines, and infrastructures of our world today, be it climbing equipment, food production, housing, industry, communications, transportation, medical treatment, defense, penitentiaries, nuclear arsenals, research and development, or exploration.
Religious people use most or all of these technologies to survive and yet attribute all of life, the universe, and science itself to being the works of God. I say their leaders and espousers of such, by laying claim to the work of men of science as being part of gods glory, are guilty of a sham. They are irresponsible children who believe in hocus pocus, fairies, and wishes (prayers). They are charlatans or worse.
Too bad religion is so steeped and ingrained in society we can't hope to free ourselves from the bonds of people who would purposely bring on Armageddon just to try and prove the point that it is prophecy. They would damn us and our children along with them. It takes more balls to ask hard questions, to protest and challenge authority, than to lay down like sheep and believe in the wife abuser, child abuser, man lie that is Abrahamic religion.
-bushman
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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God's Shining Face
by Henry M. Morris, Ph.D.
“The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee.” (Numbers 6:25)
This request is part of the well-known Mosaic benediction for the children of Israel (Numbers 6:24-27). The first occurrence in verb form of the word “shine” is in this verse, although in the noun form, translated as “light,” it appears in the third verse of the Bible when God said, “Let there be light” (Genesis 1:3).
True light comes only from God, since “God is light” (1 John 1:5). As the world depends on the sunshine for its physical life, so we continually must receive the Son’s shining in our hearts to sustain our spiritual life.
It is noteworthy that the prayer of our text occurs seven other times in the Scriptures. These are as follows:
“Make thy face to shine upon thy servant: save me for thy mercies’ sake” (Psalm 31:16); “God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; ” (Psalm 67:1); “Turn us again, O LORD God of hosts, cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved” (Psalm 80:19; also vv. 3, 7); “Make thy face to shine upon thy servant; and teach me thy statutes” (Psalm 119:135); “O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord’s sake” (Daniel 9:17).
Since God, in His omnipotence, dwells “in the light which no man can approach unto” (1 Timothy 6:16), He shines on us for salvation, spiritual illumination, and daily guidance only through His Son, the Word made flesh, for “in him was life; and the life was the light of men” (John 1:4). “For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:6). HMM http://www.icr.org/article/9655/
...Let the sunshine, let the Son shine in! : )
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Bushman
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The state of quantum flux
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Evolution, like eternity, takes a really long time. Outside of scientific studies of the natural world, we are not likely to witness the evidence of evolution in our lifetime. Now I must go visit my cousin, Fredo, at the zoo. Fredo cracks me up every time I see him. He lives in the ape exhibit with the other orangutans. Life of the party, that one.
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eeyonkee
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Golden, CO
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I'm a fan, Bushman, but there is a ton of evidence for evolution, and not only indirect evidence. It has been observed and documented, period. Read Why Evolution is True by Jerry Coyne or The Beak of the Finch by Jonathon Weiner. We met, by the way, at Humber Park in 1976.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Why a scary large number of people believe that the son of god was born of a virgin, performed a bunch of miracles, and then was crucified before rising from the dead and ascending into heaven but don't believe in evolution is a total mystery to me.
Yeah, the God who created us and everything else felt the need to send his one and only son down to atone for our sins by being crucified on a cross.....sure, happens all of the time in other galaxies.
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Bushman
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The state of quantum flux
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I was only pointing out that many don't see the evidence of evolutionary change without looking at it from a scientific perspective. It's evidence is all around us and in our biology, in our chromosomes, in the water we drink, preserved in stone, and fueling our machines.
Humber Park, can you give me a more specific clue, eeyonkee? My memory has devolved somewhat since way back then. Thanks, I will check out the reading you recommended sometime soon.
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Bushman
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Mr Donini, I've visited those other galaxies and they don't do any of that sacrifice your kid, or crucify god's kids things like that there. That must a new thing, like just in the last 2000 years.
Kids these days...
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