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i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 6, 2016 - 10:07am PT
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...

and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."


Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Oct 6, 2016 - 01:07pm PT
Jefferson Bible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

This is good for me. All the rest is just in the way.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 9, 2016 - 02:10pm PT

"Now on whom dost thou trust?"
Isaiah 36:5
Reader, this is an important question. Listen to the Christian's answer, and see if it is yours. "On whom dost thou trust?" "I trust," says the Christian, "in a triune God. I trust the Father, believing that he has chosen me from before the foundations of the world; I trust him to provide for me in providence, to teach me, to guide me, to correct me if need be, and to bring me home to his own house where the many mansions are. I trust the Son. Very God of very God is he--the man Christ Jesus. I trust in him to take away all my sins by his own sacrifice, and to adorn me with his perfect righteousness. I trust him to be my Intercessor, to present my prayers and desires before his Father's throne, and I trust him to be my Advocate at the last great day, to plead my cause, and to justify me. I trust him for what he is, for what he has done, and for what he has promised yet to do. And I trust the Holy Spirit--he has begun to save me from my inbred sins; I trust him to drive them all out; I trust him to curb my temper, to subdue my will, to enlighten my understanding, to check my passions, to comfort my despondency, to help my weakness, to illuminate my darkness; I trust him to dwell in me as my life, to reign in me as my King, to sanctify me wholly, spirit, soul, and body, and then to take me up to dwell with the saints in light forever."
Oh, blessed trust! To trust him whose power will never be exhausted, whose love will never wane, whose kindness will never change, whose faithfulness will never fail, whose wisdom will never be nonplussed, and whose perfect goodness can never know a diminution! Happy art thou, reader, if this trust is thine! So trusting, thou shalt enjoy sweet peace now, and glory hereafter, and the foundation of thy trust shall never be removed.
CHARLES SPURGEON

...Yes thank-you please!
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Oct 9, 2016 - 02:28pm PT

and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."

and God is pleased with His Son Trump!

only the libtard socialists are offended with His putting women in their place

#Trump2016

light reading:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/08/this-is-the-last-spastic-breath-from-the-religious-right-before-its-overdue-death/#comments
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 11, 2016 - 10:23am PT
The Meaning of the Cross

Matthew 27:11-26

The cross—the symbol of Christianity—has great meaning to God. First of all, through Jesus’ death, the Father proclaimed the value of every single human being: He offers forgiveness and eternal life to anyone who places faith in Jesus (Rom. 6:23). Second, it meant a great cost. Holy God separated Himself from His beloved Son while Jesus bore the weight of mankind’s sin. (See Matt. 27:46.) Third, the redemption of man was accomplished. Jesus’ shed blood purchased us from slavery to sin and reconciled us to God (1 Peter 1:18-19).

What’s more, divine justice was carried out on the cross. Scripture tells us that death is the debt owed for sin (Ezek. 18:20). However, God requires an unblemished sacrifice (Deut. 17:1). We could not adequately pay our own penalty because we would only die in our sin. For holy God to forgive us, a sufficient substitute had to be found—one who qualified to pay for our disobedience. Jesus, the only one who was without sin, willingly took our place and assumed responsibility for our debt. All our iniquity—past, present, and future—was placed on Christ, and God’s judgment upon us was carried out against Him.

The meaning of the cross was experienced firsthand by Barabbas, the notorious prisoner who was condemned to die. God’s innocent Son was substituted for him, giving the criminal freedom. Like Barabbas, we’ve had our death sentence commuted, and, though unworthy, we have been set free in Jesus. Today, the cross continues to offer life and freedom to the undeserving.
https://www.intouch.org/read/magazine/daily-devotions/the-meaning-of-the-cross



Jesus Paid It All | Elvina M. Hall

I hear the Savior say,
“Thy strength indeed is small;
Child of weakness, watch and pray,
Find in Me thine all in all.”

Refrain:
Jesus paid it all,
All to Him I owe;
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow.

For nothing good have I
Whereby Thy grace to claim;
I’ll wash my garments white
In the blood of Calv’ry’s Lamb.

And now complete in Him,
My robe, His righteousness,
Close sheltered ’neath His side,
I am divinely blest.

Lord, now indeed I find
Thy pow’r, and Thine alone,
Can change the leper’s spots
And melt the heart of stone.

When from my dying bed
My ransomed soul shall rise,
“Jesus died my soul to save,”
Shall rend the vaulted skies.

And when before the throne
I stand in Him complete,
I’ll lay my trophies down,
All down at Jesus’ feet.
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Oct 11, 2016 - 11:47am PT
^ LOL!
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 12, 2016 - 10:34am PT

The Indwelling Trinity
“That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.” (Ephesians 3:16-19)

This prayer of the apostle Paul applies to us as well as “to the saints which are at Ephesus” (Ephesians 1:1). Paul directs his prayer “unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” (3:14), and he requests both that “Christ may dwell in your hearts” and also that the Holy Spirit would strengthen our “inner man.” We know elsewhere that Christ is at the right hand of the Father in heaven (Ephesians 1:20), so that the Holy Spirit is the person who actually indwells our bodies as believers. And yet, because God is a triune God, if the Holy Spirit indwells us, so also must “the Spirit of Christ,” or else “he is none of his” (Romans 8:9).

But the prayer doesn’t end with Christ dwelling in our hearts. He further prays that “ye might be filled with all the fulness of God,” and thus the Father is there too! When we accept Christ, we accept also the Father and the Holy Spirit, for the three are one, and God in all His tri-une fullness thenceforth lives in our bodies.

The Lord Jesus Himself had prayed essentially the same prayer. “I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; . . . and my Father will love [you], and we will . . . make our abode with [you]” (John 14:16-17, 23). What a priceless privilege and responsibility is ours as believers, that our triune God of creation and redemption and direction is with us always! HMM http://www.icr.org/article/9552/
yosemite 5.9

climber
santa cruz
Oct 12, 2016 - 06:01pm PT
Next time that you have a wild and very vivid dream and wake up wondering where it came from, maybe you will realize that logic is only one tool. The dream came from somewhere. A collective consciousness? Faith is another tool towards understanding. Try meditating if you wish to journey mentally. It is yet another tool.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 17, 2016 - 01:55pm PT
If I were the Prince of Darkness

If I were the Prince of Darkness I would want to engulf the whole earth in darkness.
I’d have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree.
So I should set about however necessary, to take over the United States.
I would begin with a campaign of whispers.
With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whispers to you as I whispered to Eve, “Do as you please.”
To the young I would whisper “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that “man created God,” instead of the other way around. I would confide that “what is bad is good and what is good is square.”
In the ears of the young married I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you. I would caution them not to be “extreme” in religion, in patriotism, in moral conduct.
And the old I would teach to pray — to say after me — “Our father which are in Washington.”
Then I’d get organized.
I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull, uninteresting.
I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies, and vice-versa.
I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing, less work. Idle hands usually work for me.
I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could, I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction, I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.
If I were the Devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions; let those run wild.
I’d designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts and I’d get preachers to say, “She’s right.”
With flattery and promises of power I would get the courts to vote against God and in favor of pornography.
Thus I would evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, then from the Houses of Congress.
Then in his own churches I’d substitute psychology for religion and deify science.
If I were Satan I’d make the symbol of Easter an egg
And the symbol of Christmas a bottle.
If I were the Devil I’d take from those who have and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. Then my police state would force everybody back to work.
Then I would separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines and objectors in slave-labor camps.
If I were Satan I’d just keep doing what I’m doing and the whole world go to hell as sure as the Devil.
-Paul Harvey 1965

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Oct 17, 2016 - 03:13pm PT
And how would you vote in November?
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Oct 17, 2016 - 07:51pm PT
Because the devil is real.

Lol
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Oct 17, 2016 - 08:13pm PT
Platypus Dreams

Thomas the Egret
Sat high on his perch
Way up on a river bank
In a cluster of birch
He'd swoop down for a fish
Or rabbits in a lurch
The raccoon's reputation
He would often besmirch

Henry the fish
Was a grim kinda sort
Whenever he'd sneeze
Great big bubbles he'd snort
He'd spasm and tremble
And start to contort
'Till the top of his head
Grew a humongous wart

Don't ask me the point
Of this ludicrous tale
Because animals will do
What they do without fail
They don't believe in heaven
And they don't believe in hell
They just do what they want
It's unbelievably swell

Mark, the platypus
Was stuck in a rut
The fact he couldn't evolve
Was like a kick to the gut
As if a platypus cared
What the scientists said
He just turned out the light
And he went straight to bed

-bushman
10/17/2016
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 17, 2016 - 09:36pm PT
Before the throne of God above

Before the throne of God above
I have a strong, a perfect plea;
A great High Priest, whose Name is Love,
Who ever lives and pleads for me.

My name is graven on His hands,
My name is written on His heart;
I know that while with God He stands
No tongue can bid me thence depart.

When Satan tempts me to despair,
And tells me of the guilt within,
Upward I look, and see Him there
Who made an end of all my sin.

Because the sinless Savior died,
My sinful soul is counted free;
For God, the Just, is satisfied
To look on Him and pardon me.

Behold Him there, the risen Lamb!
My perfect, spotless Righteousness,
The great unchangeable I AM,
The King of glory and of grace.

One with Himself, I cannot die;
My soul is purchased by His blood;
My life is hid with Christ on high,
With Christ, my Savior and my God.

-C. L. Bancroft
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Oct 18, 2016 - 04:22am PT
Another sad verse in bushman's impossible mission to persuade the opiated religious masses to cast aside their religious addiction for some fleeting chance at an original thought in leu of believing they are wrought with original sin;

I see a whole nation of writers and artists in defiance of tyranny. What would they do without freedom? They must exercise their creative minds.

Some of them, they cannot lie awake in bed at night and babble endless rote scriptures acquiescing all their original thoughts to some nonexistent godhead puppet-master of the imagination.

Fight! Fight against the will to lie down and accept sweet death. Though you may see in it only pulchritude, I see only rot and the eternal abyss. Must you run and hide behind religion when you can chose to truly live?

Fight, and you still may die. But dying in your beds and not exercising the full force of your imagination would be a waste. Would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to your last day for that one chance at eternal life?

But I would look you in the eye and say I'd rather trade all of my tomorrows and any chance at eternal life under some tyrannical father figure for the freedom to fully exercise my creative mind. If your God exists he might take away my immortal soul, but for this one brief moment...

he will never take away my freedom!!!

-bushman

(Bastardized from the Braveheart Movie's William Wallace battle speech).

10/18/2016
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Oct 18, 2016 - 09:10am PT
^^^^^
I agree in part about the physical self being broken down and recycled after death.
As far as the spiritual, I don't believe we have a soul any more than a mollusk would have a soul. So I entirely disagree with you about all the rest.

As far as freedom goes, right or no right, I choose to exercise it, and do so fully at this time until the bombs rain down on me or I otherwise meet my demise.
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 18, 2016 - 10:21am PT

God the Owner
“The earth is the LORD’s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.” (Psalm 24:1)

In communist countries, “the people” own the lands, while in capitalist countries, individuals may own “private property.” Both are myths unless these are viewed as a stewardship from God. We don’t really own anything, “for we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out” (1 Timothy 6:7).

In the mineral kingdom, the most important substances are the precious metals upon which monetary standards are based, yet God makes it clear that all “the silver is mine, and the gold is mine” (Haggai 2:8). The greatest members of the plant kingdom are the mighty trees of the forest, and God reminds us that “the trees of the LORD are full of sap; the cedars of Lebanon, which he hath planted” (Psalm 104:16). All the birds and beasts in the animal kingdom are His also. “For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills” (Psalm 50:10).

Again and again God reminds us that “all the earth is mine” (Exodus 19:5) and even the infinite heavens belong to Him. “Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’s thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is” (Deuteronomy 10:14).

God has, indeed, given man “dominion . . . over all the earth” (Genesis 1:26), and Satan has, indeed, laid false claim to “all the kingdoms of the world” (Luke 4:5-6), but the fact remains that “the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will” (Daniel 4:32).

Most of all, every Christian should understand that he and all he has belong to God, by both creation and blood-bought redemption. “Ye are not your own. . . . For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). HMM www.icr.org/article/9558/

...Just passing through!
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 18, 2016 - 10:27am PT
Who Is God’s Candidate?, Part 1
https://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/90-489



Who Is God’s Candidate?, Part 2
https://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/90-490

bungs

Trad climber
CA
Oct 18, 2016 - 12:20pm PT
In case anyone hasn't already posted...

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i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Oct 20, 2016 - 10:29am PT

Because animals will do
What they do without fail

To the Animals
by Henry M. Morris, Ph.D.
Evidence for Creation

“Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.” (Proverbs 6:6-8)

Adam and Eve originally were given dominion over all the animal creation (Genesis 1:26), but sin came in and things changed. Then, after the Flood, God placed the fear and dread of man “upon all that moveth upon the earth” (Genesis 9:2), and the primeval fellowship between man and his animal friends was broken.

More seriously, their fellowship with God was broken, and soon, in their autonomy, the source of true wisdom was largely forgotten. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things” (Romans 1:22-23).

Ironically, God now directs such foolish people to the animals they worship to find the wisdom they should have learned from God. “Go to the ant,” says the Lord, to learn industry and prudence. “There be four things which are little upon the earth,” the Word says, “but they are exceeding wise: The ants . . . ; The conies . . . ; The locusts . . . ; The spider” (Proverbs 30:24-28). “The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider” (Isaiah 1:3).

“But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee” (Job 12:7-8).

If nothing else, the intricate design of even the lowest animal is eloquent testimony to the wisdom of its Creator and the madness of those who deny Him. HMM http://www.icr.org/article/9560/

Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Oct 20, 2016 - 11:36am PT
Same as it ever was

God creating us,
God owning us,
God owning women and children,
God owning slaves,
God punishing us for all of eternity,
or rewarding us with mindless debauchery…Hmmmm,
Sounds like the same old, same old.

Glad I live in the good old USA… At least for now.
Too bad the Trumpsters never acknowledged that they lost the Civil War 150 years ago.
Now I guess they're unwilling to accept it if they lose this election.

Same old BS as it ever was… Might as well nuke all the threads unrelated to climbing.
I won't lose any sleep over it, in fact, I can start planning to get a life again... Preferably not a born-again one.
I've already been born once, and if my second birth is anything like my first one, I'll pass.

-bushman
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