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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 30, 2018 - 10:26am PT
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You must be a riot at parties Craig......
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 30, 2018 - 10:28am PT
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This is not a party, it's a campfire
I usually stay quiet unless I see injustice
and I ALWAYS call out lying when I see it
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 30, 2018 - 10:40am PT
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You can have opinions about things Craig without calling people idiots.
You might hurt their feelings. I'd be sad.
:)
Or perhaps I am a Russian spy! Bwaaaahaaahaaaa!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 30, 2018 - 10:47am PT
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You should educate yourself so your opinoins are not the same as an idiot's
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jan 30, 2018 - 11:05am PT
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fear stated
Nytimes is the flip side of infowars, both are probably produced in the same basement.
It's all lies.
how so, fear?
list some of the "lies" the Times has told recently and then compare that to the Infowars lies
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 30, 2018 - 11:31am PT
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You guys are working yourselves into a lather over this Russia nonsense... The same way people worked themselves up over Benghazi or emails or whatever.
Nothing ever changes, nobody ever goes to jail. All this focus on the puppet in chief is circus and spectacle for the masses. The "Russian collusion" thing though was particularity laughable... I'm waiting for yet another Rocky movie where he can battle the evil Russian guy again.
You've got a loud mouthed orange guy who sells his brand name for $$$. Nothing wrong with that if you're into Vegas real estate or solid-gold toilet seats and embroidered crapper paper but he's hardly some deep dark figure in multi-national crime rings. He's a clown and all of these absurd claims making him out to be more than that are just silly. He's not that bright.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 30, 2018 - 11:41am PT
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Ballo Replied:
Butting in? I never said he was butting in, or that he has no right to. when someone said "one Tweet in a day is not butting in."
which was in response to Ballo's post that included:
....but why say anything? Why not just let everything play out without butting in?
Sure read like you felt he was "butting in" when I read it. But hey, the new normal is to deny what has been said or written in print, even only moments after having said or written it....
Comey posts because he is standing in solidarity with those he worked with, and for. He's chosen a side, and when history is written, wants ti be clear which one that was. If you haven't noticed, a very GOOD number of people have gone on record with statements that are what we would call "PC," but clearly indicate their feelings on what is going on.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jan 30, 2018 - 01:04pm PT
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Ballo appears to have a short term memory problem.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 30, 2018 - 01:14pm PT
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You guys are working yourselves into a lather over this Russia nonsense... The same way people worked themselves up over Benghazi or emails or whatever. We are not the same people
The people that deny the Trump collusion are the same people that created a sh#t storm over Benghazi and the e-mails
Can you see the connection??
what these people scream about are conspiracies and cover ups, and on the same side as you apparently, since you agree with them on the Russia thing
It's all about demonizing the opposition and defending the team no matter how evil.
This Trump Russia thing will become huge, just let the pieces fall.
To call it now as fake News is BS.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 30, 2018 - 01:18pm PT
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The entire list of Trump/Russia connections is on the site linked below. Someone like Ballo or fear can go through the list cherry-picking and saying, “this and this and that don’t prove anything,” and “because Hillary,” or ”because Bill Clinton” or “they’re all the same,” or “blah blah blah fake news,” but that doesn’t change the fact that this is not normal and taken as a whole it is very clear that some pretty f*#ked up sh#t has been happening to this country.
If you refuse to see that, you are not a spy, just another one of Putin’s useful idiots.
http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/
This is just what we know. I wonder what else Mueller has uncovered.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 30, 2018 - 02:02pm PT
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You guys are working yourselves into a lather over this Russia nonsense... The same way people worked themselves up over Benghazi or emails or whatever.
Nothing ever changes, nobody ever goes to jail. All this focus on the puppet in chief is circus and spectacle for the masses. The "Russian collusion" thing though was particularity laughable... I'm waiting for yet another Rocky movie where he can battle the evil Russian guy again.
You've got a loud mouthed orange guy who sells his brand name for $$$. Nothing wrong with that if you're into Vegas real estate or solid-gold toilet seats and embroidered crapper paper but he's hardly some deep dark figure in multi-national crime rings. He's a clown and all of these absurd claims making him out to be more than that are just silly. He's not that bright.
Bread and circuses, brother, except they are trying to eliminate the bread nowadays, all circus.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 30, 2018 - 02:09pm PT
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He is a clown. That is why the Russians pulled his strings. They went all in when they realized he was so easy to manipulate.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jan 30, 2018 - 02:13pm PT
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Omg.... turn off your teevees... think.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jan 30, 2018 - 02:38pm PT
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Nytimes is the flip side of infowars, both are probably produced in the same basement.
It's all lies
is that so, "fear"?
list some of the "lies" the Times has told recently and then compare that to the Infowars lies
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Levy
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 30, 2018 - 02:52pm PT
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Could all of Trump's saber rattling with North Korea be what sparked the reunification talks with South Korea? I realize that years of economic sanctions, coupled with the North's famine exacerbated by those very sanctions be the tipping point that has led to this moment?
Could it be that Trump has pushed the north hard knowing that they, like the USSR, could not sustain an arms race for long before it broke them economically?
Might it be that Trump has fooled us all?
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 30, 2018 - 03:54pm PT
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^^^No, only his supporters.^^^
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 30, 2018 - 03:58pm PT
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A stopped clock is right twice a day
Trump stumbles upon some things not so terrible once in a while
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 30, 2018 - 04:36pm PT
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Could it be that Trump has pushed the north hard knowing that they, like the USSR, could not sustain an arms race for long before it broke them economically?
One of Trump's advisors would be the instigator here not T himself.
Sorry
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 30, 2018 - 05:27pm PT
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Once they figure out they can be rich unifying with the South then it will end.
BINGO
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 30, 2018 - 05:30pm PT
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Reagans’s words didn’t do a thing but his ramping up of the arms race bankrupted them.
Also, not many Russians who fought in The Great Patriotic War were still around in the 80’s and the newer gens were sick of working for kopeks and not having anything to buy anyway.
Then Gorby made some fatal mistakes of loosening access to info and keeping the KGB in check.
That stuff isn’t directly comparable to N Korea. Besides, the USSR wasn’t run by crazy people.
The regime won’t get rich (they’re already rich) so what is their incentive to unite?
They’ll be down the road.
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