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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Aug 22, 2016 - 10:33pm PT
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 22, 2016 - 10:46pm PT
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Flipper^^^are you trying to sound intellegent?
most indoctrinated kids, as you put it. Never experience god, good example is our strange bedfellow friend Fruitless. You can teach a kid for 10yrs how to paint a car, but until he tries it he don't know sh#t. NWIM?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Aug 22, 2016 - 10:57pm PT
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 22, 2016 - 10:46pm PT
Flipper^^^are you trying to sound intellegent?
Intelligent
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 22, 2016 - 11:13pm PT
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I wish Tvash was still posting here he atleast had some originality.
You bash the slip of a thumb, deep dude. Deep
Go ahead and get off the bus now your rides ova
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 25, 2016 - 06:28am PT
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Why do so many people believe in God?
Lack of imagination.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 25, 2016 - 06:30am PT
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Why do so many people believe in politicians?
Haven't they learned?
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 25, 2016 - 07:45am PT
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Being an atheist is difficult
Faith in science is a more of an acceptance that we can constantly be proven wrong
Whereas having faith in a god is believing that there can be no other belief
I'm alone as a thinker in my clan
Building my resolve
With the understanding that in some circles I will be ostracized
And that some are so threatened by my atheism that they become indignant
Judged by those who claim a love of God above all else
Forsaking their own humanity and all the world
The essence of all life
Exchanged for a promise of deliverance
From the life that we perpetuate
It's hypocritical beyond all reason
Now unload you faithful minions upon me with your derision
Or walk away
And hear no evil, See no evil, Speak no evil
Maybe it's not so easy to do?
So I expect to be unaccepted
And in that respect
Life rarely disappoints
-bushman
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Aug 25, 2016 - 07:58am PT
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^^^^ Or, as Richard Feynman once said:
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."
Curt
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John M
climber
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Aug 25, 2016 - 07:59am PT
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Why do so many people believe in God?
Lack of imagination.
Makes me feel sad. Causes me to believe that you haven't met some of the amazing people that I have. I have of course met many people who believe in God and lack imagination, but I have also seen many atheist who lack imagination. I see atheism as a lack of imagination as they can only experience what is put smack dab in front of their face. They can't imagine anything beyond themselves. And if they do try and it doesn't respond like a magic genie in a bottle, then they get mad. They often get stuck in what they believe God should be like, rather then what God is like. But then of course so do many who believe in God. LOL.. That seems to be the nature of many people, both believers and non believers.
Forsaking their own humanity and all the world
man is in his infancy of knowing himself and God. You judge based on the lowest common denominator.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 25, 2016 - 08:01am PT
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Why do so many people believe in God?
Lack of imagination.
Lack of imagination and not credible information? People who don't believe in (a) God may seriously lack recognition of their own imagination.
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John M
climber
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Aug 25, 2016 - 08:05am PT
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I miss him too Dingus. I learned a lot from him. I wish that I had been able to help him get past the darkness, but I was still in the grip of my own.
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Al Barkamps
Social climber
Red Stick
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Aug 25, 2016 - 09:01am PT
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....and what truth us that?
That, according to Christians, he's "burning in hell" for having ended is own life?
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Aug 25, 2016 - 09:08am PT
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"I like your christ, I just don't like your christians" - Gandhi
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 25, 2016 - 09:25am PT
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But I believe all of us, upon our death, will know all the answers. Is it so wrong to seek answers and then more questions about the meaning of existence and the origin of the universe while we're still living, if we are more concerned about the quest for knowledge than the possible existence of the hereafter?
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 25, 2016 - 09:39am PT
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But I believe all of us, upon our death, will know all the answers.
Where is the fun in that? Boring eternity and not logical.
Is the Supreme going to change tactics and lay it all out? How did you get that idea? I think you have an incorrect assumption as to the depth of the Creator's intellect.
I would say, "We may begin to spend millenniums scratching the surface of understanding some of the answers."
Respect the depth of it all.
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John M
climber
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Aug 25, 2016 - 09:56am PT
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So what exactly is this God that so many people believe in?
I seriously doubt you can even agree on what it is.
why do you need everyone to agree on what God is?
Have you heard the parable of the blind men and the elephant?
This gives a reasonable version of it, though there are other ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
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John M
climber
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Aug 25, 2016 - 10:05am PT
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Its a parable.. try to look deeper. Human's understanding of God is "like" a group of blind men touching an elephant.
And at the same time, yes, there are aspects of God that are absolute. Such as "God is Love". That is an absolute, though man interprets that through his or hers lower mind and rarely reaches high enough to even mildly grasp what Love really is. And so man often gets it wrong. Just as a child often gets the parents love wrong. Wah.. you won't let me eat ice cream for breakfast. And so the child believes the parent doesn't love it. In the perspective of God, humans, even adult humans, are much like children.
Especially their belief about an eternal hell. There is no such thing. That would be intensely cruel.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 25, 2016 - 10:16am PT
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atheism as a lack of imagination as they can only experience what is put smack dab in front of their face. They can't imagine anything beyond themselves. And if they do try and it doesn't respond like a magic genie in a bottle, then they get mad. They often get stuck in what they believe God should be like, rather then what God is like
I think that proves my point. If you really have such a limited view of what atheists think, at least going by what you have written here, then truly you lack imagination. Go ahead and stretch your brain, you won't break it! And you don't need an imaginary friend to hold your hand.
It's okay to take personal responsibility. If there was a god, wouldn't it want you to do so?
The universe is infinite. There is more going on than we can ever comprehend. There is no need to limit it by assigning it to the work of "God."
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John M
climber
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Aug 25, 2016 - 10:20am PT
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I don't doubt hell Moosedrool. I am saying that Christians understanding of eternal hell is false. Hell is a creation of mans lower mind. It was not created by God, and thus is not eternal. We put ourselves in hell by our choices.
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Aw Jaybro.. you misread me. That is not my only understanding of atheists. I know many atheists, and many of them have active imaginations.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 25, 2016 - 10:23am PT
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Well, you can count me in as an atheist with an active imagination...I look at Locker's picture above, and my mind starts a-wanderin'....
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