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Tony Bird
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Northridge, CA
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Mar 15, 2011 - 08:47pm PT
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funny to see that jesus freak trying to spindoctor the disaster in japan. she should have been around in 1964, when the alaska quake hit, thought to have been a 10 on the richter scale. it was on a good friday, and a lot of people thought the world was ending. but it wasn't.
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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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Mar 15, 2011 - 08:56pm PT
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rrrADAM
Trad climber
LBMF
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Mar 16, 2011 - 08:57am PT
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Why do so many people believe in God? (Serious Question?) Because if you pray to him, he will protect you from Earthquakes and nuclear events... Oh, wait...
Ok, because he is making this stuff happen (E.g., causing the deaths and suffering of countless innocents [infants, children, and even the 'faithful']) to signal his return is near. Oh, wait...
Becasue it makes them feel good, that all the above is in some way true, if you just twist how you look at somethings, and ignore other things.
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go-B
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Sozo
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Mar 16, 2011 - 09:41am PT
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Credit: Daily Readings from the Life of CHRIST, vol.3-John MacArthur
You get to choose?
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Mar 16, 2011 - 11:41am PT
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Dear god, hope you get the letter and...
I pray you can make it better down here
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer
But all the people that you made in your image
See them starving in the street
'Cause they don't get enough to eat from god
I can't believe in you
Dear god, sorry to disturb you but...
I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
And all the people that you made in your image
See them fighting in the street
'Cause they can't make opinions meet about god
I can't believe in you
Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!
Dear god don't know if you noticed but...
Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
And all the people that you made in your image
still believing that junk is true
Well I know it ain't, and so do you
Dear god
I can't believe in
I don't believe
I won't believe in heaven or hell
No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
No pearly gates, no thorny crown
You're always letting us humans down
The wars you bring, the babes you drown
Those lost at sea and never found
And it's the same the whole world 'round
The hurt I see helps to compound
That father, son and holy ghost
Is just somebody's unholy hoax
And if you're up there you'll perceive
That my heart's here upon my sleeve
If there's one thing I don't believe in
It's you
Dear god
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rrrADAM
Trad climber
LBMF
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Mar 16, 2011 - 02:20pm PT
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Well said, D... As always.
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go-B
climber
Sozo
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Mar 16, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
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2 Corinthians 3:5 Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God
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go-B
climber
Sozo
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Mar 17, 2011 - 08:04am PT
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Credit: Daily Readings from the Life of CHRIST, vol.3-John MacArthur
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MH2
climber
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Mar 17, 2011 - 04:10pm PT
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"Others see angry clouds and assign the emotion to god."
Yes, and still others see sunlight as God's love or gods' gift and that may have helped our distant ancestors look past times of angry clouds and other trials and hardships.
If you want to know what is in the mind of an owl, first you'd need to forget language, how to drive, history, TV and movies, etc. We can begin by saying there is a lot that isn't in the mind of the owl, from our perspective.
The same may be said for human infants.
One of my sisters did a Masters Thesis on animal play. Watching young animals play is the best way I know of to get the sense that animals and people share at least a little emotional common ground.
Last October I was out at a clifftop enjoying a post-climb glow and watching the sun set and noticed a small translucent red spider in the lichen near a coil of the rope. In the mood I was in I felt connection to the spider; how it didn't have a house to go to and didn't have health insurance or any protection at all besides what it could do on its own, but I guessed it was possible the spider, when it grasped and injected its next bug might feel savage exultation. Or was it savage exaltation? (Sheridan Anderson reference)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron
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go-B
climber
Sozo
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Mar 20, 2011 - 10:45am PT
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Credit: Daily Readings from the Life of CHRIST, vol.3-John MacArthur
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go-B
climber
Sozo
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Mar 21, 2011 - 10:41am PT
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Credit: Daily Readings from the Life of CHRIST, vol.3-John MacArthur
Jesus holds the keys to God's Kingdom, and He wants you to have them, you but have to ask!
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go-B
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Sozo
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Mar 21, 2011 - 11:35am PT
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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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Mar 21, 2011 - 12:35pm PT
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This sign-reading tendency has a distinct and clear relationship with morality. When it comes to unexpected heartache and tragedy, our appetite for unraveling the meaning of these ambiguous "messages" can become ravenous. Misfortunes appear cryptic, symbolic; they seem clearly to be about our behaviors. Our minds restlessly gather up bits of the past as if they were important clues to what just happened. And no stone goes unturned. Nothing is too mundane or trivial; anything to settle our peripatetic thoughts from arriving at the unthinkable truth that there is no answer because there is no riddle, that life is life and that is that.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=signs-signs-everywhere-signs-seeing-2011-03-13
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go-B
climber
Sozo
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Mar 24, 2011 - 08:13am PT
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Credit: Daily Readings from the Life of CHRIST, vol.3-John MacArthur
Jesus had the compassion for the hurting!
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steveA
Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
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Mar 24, 2011 - 03:00pm PT
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Never posted here.
I'm going to waste an hour and write some thoughts here even thou only a few people will read them.
I was brought up a catholic and even was an alter boy for a while. My oldest brother is a priest, and spent most of his time in the highlands of Peru.
I've traveled quite a bit and seen many cultures. It seems the human race wants to believe in a "Higher Power". It's been many years since I was a practicing Catholic and I've thought quite a bit about this subject.
As I get older, I realize that there are fewer years ahead. I think for many the belief in a "Higher Power" gives some comfort--so to speak.
I went to the IMAX theater in L.A last week and saw the pictures of the universe taken by the Hubble Telescope. I've always been an astronomy nut since I was a teen. I was blown away!!!
I've often pondered how the universe was created and really have a hard time getting my head around it and never will. For many, Religion, solves this problem. It's pretty easy to explain that the universe was created by
a "GOD", and that your spirit will also live after you, once your dead.
I hold no ill will towards the people who believe in a "GOD". The question I keep pondering is the same question which human beings have been asking since the cave man. If there is a "GOD" ---who created "it".
The "Big Bang Theory" explains how the Universe was created. Well, where did the matter come from before the "Big Bang"?
I said that I couldn't get my head around it.
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rrrADAM
Trad climber
LBMF
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Mar 24, 2011 - 03:24pm PT
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The "Big Bang Theory" explains how the Universe was created. Well, where did the matter come from before the "Big Bang"?
There was no matter before the Big Bang, in fact, there was no matter just after it either, just energy and spacetime.
Read up brutha, and enjoy the journey...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Big_Bang
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MH2
climber
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Mar 24, 2011 - 03:32pm PT
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from steveA
"It's pretty easy to explain that the universe was created by
a "GOD", and that your spirit will also live after you, once your dead."
Whether you wasted time posting is a whole other question.
But your spirit and every other part of you may live after you once you are dead, at least in what we call "the past". Time is one of the harder subjects to wrap one's head around, probably more so than where matter and energy came from.
Glad you posted.
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