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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Mar 10, 2011 - 02:55pm PT
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Really some people take the wrong things much to seriously, & that does not let them see what is right in front of them.
Everyone needs to find a good dog & have faith.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Mar 10, 2011 - 03:11pm PT
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If humans lack free will then...
Then God or the big bang has pretty much forced all of us to act exactly how we are acting right at this moment. At least if that's the case, I can't be blamed for being what I am.
Funny thing about free will; if we have it, then God cannot possibly know how this will all end. Not so omnipotent after all, not being able to see the future. Even if God could see all possible futures, not knowing which one will be the right one puts a damper on being supreme.
Dave
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Mar 10, 2011 - 05:48pm PT
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What word that starts with an 'H' best describes this?
I don't know, I can't decide, hassoles or hypocrites.
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go-B
climber
Sozo
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Mar 10, 2011 - 06:11pm PT
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I must be insane, I keep posting and keep getting the same results!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Mar 10, 2011 - 08:12pm PT
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Cintune,
I'd like your synopsis if not essay on Peterson's lecture posted HERE by 7:30 morning tomorrow. But if you post up by 7:00 I'll be able to review it over coffee. :)
This was an interesting take:
"The man who goes out to confront chaos when the traditions are crumbling is more likely to find a mate."
So this was Peterson's take on what myth?
And it probably assumes the man is under 50 years old. ;)
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MH2
climber
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Mar 10, 2011 - 10:01pm PT
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Thanks for that real-life example, weschrist.
Always go to the source, they say.
Doesn't seem to work in religion.
So back to the obfuscating board.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Mar 10, 2011 - 11:29pm PT
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The idea with Jonah,
1. Now and then, what lurks underneath in the darkness rises up to swallow you.
2. But if your attitude is proper, then you can come back out sometime later changed for the better.
A story of recovery or redemption.
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Jordan Peterson-
"The purpose of life as far as I can tell from studying mythology and from studying psychology for decades is to find a mode of being that is so meaningful that the fact that life is suffering is no longer relevant or maybe that it is even acceptable."
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luggi
Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
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Mar 10, 2011 - 11:42pm PT
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HFCS...what is your concept of the Book of Jonah? I didn't follow if you were commenting on someone else's interpretation or?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Mar 10, 2011 - 11:50pm PT
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Luggi,
Sorry for the lack of clarity there. Those were just a comment and quote or two from Jordan Peterson. From the link Cintune above posted. Earlier I watched the lecture. I thought it was pretty good.
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luggi
Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
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Mar 11, 2011 - 12:17am PT
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Thanks HFCS...there is so much in that short book that I thought might be worth some exploration. But...prolly not a good idea
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Mar 11, 2011 - 10:40am PT
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I must be insane, I keep posting and keep getting the same results!
that's because you keep posting the same stuff, gobee. as i've suggested to you before, put it in your own words. your message isn't very popular, so you'll have to work extra hard at that.
any fool can dump tons of crap into a post window, but it won't get read unless it engages the others directly. in order to do that, you actually have to listen to what others have to say, whether you like what they're saying or not. if you think it's a simple debate, you'd better think again.
maybe this will help:
"Listen, Meg, God made the angels to show Him splendor, as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But Man He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of his mind."
--from a man for all seasons
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Mar 11, 2011 - 12:06pm PT
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a man for all seasons was written in the 20th century about a man who lived in the 16th century. it's very true, thomas more had no appreciation for the periodic table of the elements and never looked through a microscope, which hadn't been invented yet.
so then, weschrist, are you telling me sex is not innocent? or homosexual sex is sinful--for dogs? please think this out for me, it's strange territory.
delusion of self-importance? according to the prophet john muir, everything is important.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Mar 11, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
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Could you kindly kept dogs out of your human thinking.
& people wonder why we get bit.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Mar 11, 2011 - 08:33pm PT
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i'm still not clear as to whether gay dogs are going to hell.
but i think glanton had a good one there with the jewish zombie. jesus is such a two-dimensional human, so aloof, so administrative. just never had the feeling he was one of us. some people think he never existed. others find a very different religion in the apocrypha, buried now for centuries as we dodder along under an orthodoxy which seems increasingly obsolete in a modern world.
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Mar 12, 2011 - 10:20am PT
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"The road to Hell may be paved with good intentions: the road to Heaven is paved with lost opportunities." --Apsley Cherry-Garrard
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Mar 14, 2011 - 12:40pm PT
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Mar 15, 2011 - 11:06am PT
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I suggest all you bible-ignoring, Jesus-hating vile heathens repent and join His Cause!!
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