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elcap-pics
Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
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Pirate... yeah you are so right and I have stated almost every time I have posted that I don't have a clue. Interesting speculating though since for 500 posts NO ONE knew anything, not just me! I and almost everyone else here wishes you the best of luck in the courts. I have posted several times but with one theme... sorry you got caught jumping... the penalty is much to harsh... but if you resisted arrest then you got what you earned, being tased, but if you didn't, then, if you can afford it, take the tasers to court and get some $$$$ for your suffering. I think a lot of the posts here that were intended to support base jumping have done more harm than good.
That said... STOP POSTING HERE AS IT WILL DO YOU NO GOOD IN COURT.
I also hope you will not be personally offended that some of your friends do not think base jumping in the park is something that should be "legalized".... nothing to do with you or your situation. As I have also clearly stated... nothing I know of has so little value as my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.
Best of luck man....
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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"ammon jumped, the rangers wanted to stop him as he walked away in the dark, and they tased him."
Steph Davis - Twitter
http://twitter.com/highsteph
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Cops at any level are not above the law but there are lots of laws and protections on their side. Like I said, SUCCESSFUL law suits against them are rare.
The pigs tend to get away with their illegal actions and activities.
Isn't that special.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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@ Steph Davis ^^^
It was too annoying to watch more than 60 seconds of it. For the love of god.
DELETE!
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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Ammon "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" McNeely
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bmacd
climber
Relic Hominid
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I couldn't watch it all either, 50 bucks sez Steph's gonna be the next tazzing victim in the valley.
I thot I knew how to make a fool of myself
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Mimi
climber
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I agree with both Dave and Jim on this issue; currently not the best idea to allow jumping in the Valley.
Can there be select jumping days like at the New River Gorge? That is a much smaller bridge jump and the area has a longer history with jumping but can this be organized?
I love watching the evolution of sport before our eyes. No surprise regulations would enter the picture. Those people must be crazy! We must stop them!
Our generation is witnessing an amazing array of human evolution and sport. So glad climbers don't have to jump through so many hoops to do their thing. We really do have a lot of freedom.
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO Sep 3, 2010 - 08:07pm PT
Cops at any level are not above the law but there are lots of laws and protections on their side. Like I said, SUCCESSFUL law suits against them are rare.
The pigs tend to get away with their illegal actions and activities.
Isn't that special.
MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona Sep 3, 2010 - 04:57pm PT
He can only do the civil route. And it is only "preponderance of the evidence" as burden of proof. Like more than %50.
The government has to do the criminal part. But they will need him as a witness.
Burden of proof for the fed is "beyond a reasonable doubt"
Hammer meet nail. Fatrad why do you wish MTucker delete his posts? A) Because it provides an in depth look at corruption within the/your system? B) He is a complete troll/Idiot? Or C, please explain.........
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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I don't care what the laws are, I don't care what the rules are
Nice, Steph. That is a great way to make it better.
As much as I support Ammon's jump, I gotta go with Fattrad and Anders on this one.
STFU until you have talked to your lawyer and/or been to court.
What a trainwreck.
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Mimi
climber
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Ditto. I'm all for being a rebel but there's something about what they show on TV about the importance of lawyering up.
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Mimi
climber
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That explains a lot.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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don't they have tv in prison?
me and bubba had frickin cable in the downstairs basement during the 30 day lockdown,
the most monogamous relationship i ever had was in the joint, me and bubba, down there together, just us, for thirty fun packed days,man, i miss the good ol days, three hots and a cot, and bubba was hot alright, every damn night, it was real tight,
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Mimi
climber
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Hey Doc, save them stories for the other campfire.
How's the summer been with El Nino and all? True to form up here.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
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In the internet age getting arrested or tazed is small potatoes and welcomed in fact (Nitro Circus and all that) . Kudos to Ammon for his light-hearted approach .
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Mimi
climber
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Did you read the interview with the Google owner who said that much of today's youth would have to change their names to shake their tainted web identities?
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Mimi
climber
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I meant to gingerly add to biotch's comment.
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Mimi
climber
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Nevermind.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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can anybody around here construct a complete sentance?
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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So Ammon does a crime.
Cops need to address the crime.
Criminal walks away = Actively trying to avoid arrest and not facing his crime.
Cops now have to stop him. Now, not later.
Talk to him? He is not listening
Trip him? Nope
Pepper spray? Nope has to be in the face to work. Not the back of his head when he is walking.
Tackle him? No, cops are trained to use methods to not get injured themselves.
Baton? Pretty high on Use of Force to beat him with a metal rod.
Gun? No
Let him get into a car? No, car chases are bad news.
Let him get away? Nope
Let him destroy evidence? No (possession of base gear and maybe a helmet cam)
The industry standard is the Taser in this type of situation.
If Ammon’s side is true, he should have just put the handcuffs on and said “take me boys, I am man enough to accept it and not stupid enough to resist arrest.”
This incident could be bigger than it seems.
Instead of one misdemeanor crime, Ammon could be facing much, much more.
Base Jumping
Resisting Arrest
Fleeing the scene of a crime
Ignored lawful order
Lying to the cops?
conspiracy?
Did others hike up with Ammon?
Did others jump with Ammon?
Did he have a getaway driver?
extenuating circumstances?
Past criminal history?
Suspected to have done this crime before?
Any drugs?
Any alcohol?
Weapons?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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i tasered my mom last night because she burned the cookies, stupid bi-atch!
then i tasered the poodle, while it was using the toilet,
left the damn seat up,
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