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Russ Walling
Social climber
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Hey, good job Pete.... Nice work.
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Matt
Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
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fair enough, and i didn't read thte TR, just scanned the pics, but i still hold my own opinion about fires in yosemite in general.
kinda fecally fixated then, are ya?
creepy.
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Matt
Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
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2 fires in one TR?
i was commenting on the heels of another post that asked if it was smart to post those photos of fires. climbing is growing in popularity every year and that will only continue. you can say i'm sanctimonious or fart bubbles or whatever you like, and i will respond that climbers need to pay more attention to their impacts. if no one ever complained, sh#t bags would still be the norm.
post under a real name and i might actually care for a second what your oinion is.
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ricardo
Gym climber
San Francisco, CA
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please .. its ok to build fires in the wilderness as lons as you use an exisiting fire ring ..
thats the actual party line from the NPS ..
in both cases it appears that pete did that .. (in fact he even used an exisitng grill) ..
.. i've built fires on top of el cap (there is an existing fire ring at the summit of tangerine trip) ..
here is the actual text from the NPS wilderness guide
Limit your use of wood fires. Campfires are not allowed above 9600' due to wood scarcity and potential resource damage. Below 9600', they may be built in existing fire rings. Burn only dead and down wood. Please use stoves when ever possible
.. sounds like pete did just that .. so whats the problem matt?
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Matt
Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
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if it's not illegal then it's my bad, that was almost the 1st thing i wrote!
i am surprised they allow that.
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426
Trad climber
obed
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Nice photo+essays PPTP, very enjoyable even for a bolt clipping schwaa like me.
Thx, and like others stated next time more action shots plz.
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Rhodo-Router
Trad climber
Otto, NC
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Action/fester ratio doubtless accurate.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Nice pics, Pete. But, I must admit that I didn’t read any of the text.
Dude, like, did you put enough gear into the Carrot, or what? Holy sewing machines, Batman!
Damn, I bet that thing IS expando if you place a piece every 12 inches… What about top-stepping? Get a little more distance between the pieces and it won’t feel like it’s expando! Man, that must have taken all day to lead and clean with all of that gear… It also appears that you have the world’s largest collection of Screamers – no doubt.
Thanks for posting the pics!
Carrot photo by PTPP, borrowed from the other thread...
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Pete, I suggest you get a webpage. Seriously. You can do it for $20 a year.
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quartziteflight
climber
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Cool. Way to go @ssholes somebody puts a lot of effort into a TR and you b*tch..
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Shack
Social climber
So. Cal.
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Nice Job Pete!
I really like how you make fun of those dopey Canadians! ;)
but I didn't know you were supposed to put a screamer on EVERY piece!(must be the better way?).
Just kiddin'..."It's all good!"....
except for that foul clump of intestinal sculptures you call a "wall flower!" Nasty!
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2005 - 05:09pm PT
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Holy!
I was away helping my dad with our boat, so it's ready for fishing this fall, and I come back to all these positive responses. Thanks so much! I feel motivated to try this photo essay thing again sometime.
I don't have time right now, but I will indeed answer everyone's questions in turn. So please keep those cards and letters comin', as I promise to answer.
The reason I published the campfire pictures is because I thought they were cool, because we had a really swell time, and because I wanted your feedback. My understanding has always been what Ricardo quoted, and hence it's my understanding the fire is legit. However at this time I remain as for 3. above.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno, CA
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Nice job, Pete! Really great write-up, nice photos... Good work! I have a couple of photos during schlepping and blast-off that you may be interested in addding....
Either way, keep it coming!
Cheers!
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fareastclimber
climber
Hong Kong
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Yargh, are the pics not working for anybody else? All the imageshack links appear to be broken... help...
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kevin Fosburg
Sport climber
park city,ut
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Good job Pete! I talked to you briefly last fall about Tribal Rite in the Valley (I advised you'd be asking for someone to "pass the copperheads"). It's great you sent it and posted these boss photos. I remember when Jeff Hornibrook and I were getting ready to do that route Werner of local fame said we should do a "real el cap route" like Son of Heart. In retrospect he was right. Again, good effort.
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WBraun
climber
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He he he now Kevin
Now who's talking of local fame you and Jeff were right up there as the best in the buisness.
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up2top
Big Wall climber
Phoenix, AZ
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Excellent phots, Pete. I skipped through some of the blather, but I've gotta admit it wasn't too bad for a PTPP post. Not nearly as much emphatic emphasis on every other phrase -- it's much easier to follow and less verbose.
I think I'll need to add Tribal to my list of routes I'd like to climb on the Cap'n some day. The location, length, and difficulty of the climb are very appealing. I'll have to partner up with someone who likes the wide stuff, though. Yikes.
Ed
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WBraun
climber
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Ok Ed you can just go up the nose and start off the top of the boot and skip the entire wide.
Now why is this route called “Tribal Rite?”
Because those guys were going to drill a huge blank section for a complete original start requiring a lot of bolts and/or rivet ladders.
The local climbers gave them the heavy vibes not to do all that drilling and they gave in to those vibes not to do their original start idea. Thus it was the “Tribal Rite” that influenced their ultimate decision.
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Pete, thanks for posting the TR. It was great and everything seemed to work fine. You should definately get your own site going with such a wealth of info.
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tokyo bill
Social climber
tokyo
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If positive feedback will lead to more TRs like that one - count me in. Excellent!
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