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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Jun 29, 2008 - 02:56am PT
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The more I think about it, I bet Obama is in on it also.
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Jun 29, 2008 - 04:50am PT
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Yoooo Sparky the, ah, maybe welder....
As a fellow welder, the puzzle website notice said it was a big download.
I clicked out of it.
Probably a standard impossible or possible puzzle.
I do not do the standard impossible or possible puzzles. They have already been figured out by the person who made them.
Some of my colleagues in the Mental Militia like puzzles. Some of them are also into conspiracies, and can verbally describe some of the more grand conspiracies with inordinately impressive arrays of names, dates, events, associations and patience vastly beyond my ability in that regard.
After all the conspiracies are described in detail, and the conspiracy and anti-conspiracy folks have exhausted their knowledge, energy and interest, that is precisely where I start on the related knowledge puzzle, the solution to any or all conspiracies, the resolution of the contradictions. That is my current interest, among others.
Let me know if you know anyone who seriously wants to solve any inordinately complex human-caused contradiction or problem. World peace? No more wars? Dump the power structures? Too easy. I already have the solutions to all the human-caused contradictions, promptly manifestable, defeating any and all opposition. It was just a knowledge puzzle inherent to the design of the human mind.
Among others, the primary amusement factor is the reaction to those words, of all the people who purport to want the knowledge. Would not such words logically induce questions? It is not inherent to the source of the contradictions, the human mind, that the human mind holds the resolutions, or the contradictions could not have been created by it?
If the knowledge existed, and did not have a series of defenses against it being discovered, and then a series of defenses against it being transfered to another human, by design, considering the capability of the human mind's design, all human-caused problems would have been solved upon their being created, or at least shortly after checking the refrigerator. I gotta go to the grocery store.
And of course certain people have always independently learned the knowledge by design of the human mind.
PRECISELY, line item explanation, verifiable against all questions, what would induce a completely illogical, unsupportable response of suggesting somebody is nuttier than a fruitcake (that would taste good right now), a moron, wacked and such things, rather than starting to ask questions, upon indication of valuable knowledge one indicated their desire to have?
Cool design, huh? The defense against learning what it most wants to know is more than just brilliant, yet it can learn everything. The impossible climbing routes, were climbed.
But thanks for the puzzle link anyway.
And keep on having entirely too much fun.
Maybe I could raid my climbing food candy stash. Maybe I already did that last week.
Doug
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_MUDD_
climber
Schwagstaff
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Jun 29, 2008 - 09:48am PT
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Now your thinking Woody. Obama could be in on it, he is a Muslim right? and the Muslims did it right. Wait a second, Muslims hate our Freedoms, Democrats hate freedom.
Obama = Psuedo Muslim Democrat. Woody I think you solved it. I knew something wasn't right I don't trust a man with that many teeth, not to mention the fact that he still has hope. Anyone who has "Hope" but is running for PREZ is obviously a liar or an idiot. He probly just "hopes" no one tries to make him eat a hot dog at the inaugaration.
I really need to watch more FOx and CNN news. There is a lot of truthiness out there I've been missing.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Jun 29, 2008 - 12:03pm PT
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And further: Notice how the NYT with all their investigative ability haven't been on this. Other major newspapers also have been absent. This logically means.....they must be in on it too.
It had to be a "Black Ops" organization which, of course, leads us to.....The Pentagon!
Now considering the incestuous relationships between various organs of the US government: nepotism, back scratching and mobility of people through various organs and departments of same; some members of Congress must be involved. And, there would be no way something like this could have been carried out with- out the FBI and CIA being, to some degree, complicit.
Now, the terrorists were Saudis, and Mossad has been seen by some as a possible factor in carrying out the attack. Do you realize what this could mean: this just hit me, the Saudis and Israel and, possibly, the Pentagon, NYT, CIA, FBI, Congress. Do you realize that a significant number of homosexuals and Jews are members of these organizations (Well, not the Saudis.). On the other hand, it could be that we don't really know the Saudis do we. I've heard hints that the Mossad has infiltrated the Saudi government and placed agents here and there. I've even heard that some of the more radical, Muslim firebrands, in reality, are Rabbis.
IT'S THE LUMINATTI; THEY REALLY DO EXIST! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Jun 29, 2008 - 12:30pm PT
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I JUST WENT OUT FOR A CIGARETTE, AND WHILE LETTING MY MIND RELAX AND THE SUBCONSCIOUS WORK A BIT, ALL THE COMPLEX STRINGS OF THE CONSPIRACY MELDED INTO A COMPREHENSIBLE PATTERN, AND THE EVIL, WICKED AND NEFARIOUS TRUTH BECAME SHOCKINGLY CLEAR: IT'S PATTI HEARST.
THE PREVIOUS POST ON THE HEARST NEWSPAPERS AND ALL THE TERRIBLE THINGS OLD RANDOLF DID IN THE PAST WAS THE SALIENT KEY TO THE WHOLE TERRIBLE CONSPIRACY. LOOK TO "CITIZEN KANE"; ALL THE ANSWERS ARE THERE IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. AND THIS MEANS THAT ORSON WELLS WAS IN ON THE ORIGINAL PLANNING.
ARREST PATTI HEARST, WATERBOARD HER, AND THE TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN!
UNTIL THEN, I'VE GOT TO HIDE. I THINK I'LL GO LIVE WITH LOCKER. BUT, THEN, CAN LOCKER BE TRUSTED? AFTER ALL, HE USED TO WORK WITH THE HOLLYWOOD CREW. AND NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT LOCKER HANGS WITH OUT IN JT--not me of course--ARE QUITE STRANGE.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 29, 2008 - 12:52pm PT
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Woody, could you read the story about the attempted coup on FDR and acknowledge that it was real and yet not significantly reported or made known to the people.
How do you account for that?
peace
karl
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_MUDD_
climber
Schwagstaff
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Jun 29, 2008 - 01:52pm PT
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Man Wood,
You really seem to be attached to "REALITY"?
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Jun 29, 2008 - 03:00pm PT
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Karl,
I'm well versed in the history of the FDR era and am well acquainted with all the vicious politics of the era, New Deal through the War.
You can go even further back to conspiracies against Lincoln, or even further to conspiracies against Washington during the Revolution.
Conspiracies of the past, real or imagined, have no logical connection to conspiracies , real or imagined, today-- none whatsoever. Evidence of a conspiracy must stand on its own merits. If you look at 911 and see a conspiracy involving the US government as being behind the attack, you have serious psychological problems and do well to seek professional help. Those seeing a government plot here want a government plot or they are simply sick.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 29, 2008 - 03:38pm PT
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Just making sure you can accept that conspiracies exist Woody.
And there is OBVIOUSLY a conspiracy regarding 9-11 if you look at the way the gov has suppressed evidence in many forms. Now it may just be a conspiracy to cover up that they responded poorly, or that they had the info to predict the attacks and failed to do anything, but even the 9-11 commission leaders have admitted that political considerations tainted the report and suppressed info from being included.
and when it's obvious the truth is being suppressed, it far from sick to raise question.
The 9-11 report was a whitewash, we need the real answers
Peace
karl
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_MUDD_
climber
Schwagstaff
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Jun 29, 2008 - 04:44pm PT
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Woody, it seems you fancy yourself a history buff, tell me what is so unbelievable about a poor working class majority being controlled by a small powerful elite?
Regardless of who is ultimately responsible for 9/11, is not our Governments Fear-Mongering and trashing of our civil liberties not enough to show that "they" do not have "our" best interest in mind.
Then who are they serving?
-"When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible."- Sinclair Lewis
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Jun 29, 2008 - 05:14pm PT
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This will come as a surprise I'm sure. The majority in the US are middle class; they are not poor, they are not fools. If the US ever falls under the control of a domestic authoritarian state, it will be statist-- Marxism. Of course, this is only my opinion. When I look at Europe or even Canada and view the curtailment of freedom of speech rights, privacy rights, self-defense rights, excessive taxation to maintain and expand the welfare society (which is nothing more than expanding the government's control of individual choice and making the individual dependent upon government), I see the left at work. Of course, when it comes to individual liberty, there is little difference between Marxism and Fascism other than Fascism is economically more efficient.
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Trippel40
Social climber
CO
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Jun 29, 2008 - 05:42pm PT
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My firm belief that our government and humanity in general is too fuc*ed up and dysfunctional to pull off any of this stuff in a coherent manner remains unchanged by all this silliness.
We will die by our own hand (pollution, squandering resources, toxic environment, etc) long before any deliberate evil conspiriacy screws us.
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_MUDD_
climber
Schwagstaff
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Jun 29, 2008 - 07:43pm PT
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It seems then Woody that we are both Anarchist at heart!
Unless of course your a fuking Capitalist.
oh yeah, Rich are getting richer, middle getting smaller, poor getting poorer.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,962753,00.html
(however TIME is a bullshit corporatist consumer mouthpiece rag that is not to be trusted)
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_MUDD_
climber
Schwagstaff
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Jun 29, 2008 - 07:47pm PT
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Trippel,
As you said we will most likely not die from an evil conspiracy. More likely we will die at our own hand. However, I don't like the idea of being screwed until we die.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Jun 29, 2008 - 11:56pm PT
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One thing for certain, we are going to die. NOW, WILL I GET AN ARGUMENT OVER THAT!
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Yonder
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Jun 30, 2008 - 01:30am PT
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Today is a good day to die, ...or tomorrow, whenever. I'm not anxious, mind you, but just ready.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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When I look at Europe or even Canada and view the curtailment of freedom of speech rights, privacy rights, self-defense rights
Ummm. Not to disagree with you about the difficulty of keeping secret the vast conspiracy required to pull off the 9/11 attacks, I do have to ask what led you to say what you said about Canada and Europe. Neither of them are perfect places, but I did live in Canada for 50 years before moving to your country, and... well... You're pulling an LEB on this one, dude. (Remember the "socialized medicine" nonsense?)
Freedom of speech and privacy are more alive and well in the Great White North than they are in the US. I'm not sure I know exactly what you mean about "self-defense rights" so I can't argue about that, although as far as I know, people north of 49 are expected to defend themselves when required.
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Jeremy Handren
climber
NV
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Hi Ghost,
Woody's comments on Europe and Canada are based, like most of his comments, on complete and utter ignorance.
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