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Matt
climber
Some Hole in the Ground
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Oct 28, 2004 - 12:44pm PT
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for the record, i have said all that there is to say on this matter, and unless goated into another repeat performance, i am done w/ it, i don't really think this is the best place for it, and since my height and womanizing skillz are all you've got, dave, you can even have the last word.
btw- those offers stand.
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Donny Quijote
Boulder climber
Boulder F'n CO
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Oct 28, 2004 - 01:00pm PT
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All this MAN-talk is so pathetic that it eventually becomes humorous....you guys can't really be serious.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Oct 28, 2004 - 01:04pm PT
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F*#k socialized medicine.
Snipe Kerry.
F*#k religion.
Nuke the Middle East.
What a waste of time...
I'm voting for the team of Darwin and Malthus!
Long live natural selection!
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Tradboy
Social climber
Valley
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Oct 28, 2004 - 02:05pm PT
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Very entertaining thread.
Matt, you better watch who you accuse of prying, it's a touchy subject.
HK, if you're who I think you are, tall dude with a shaved head and ugly teeth who hijacks half of Hidden Valley with your clique, you're not exactly a pretty motherf*#ker.
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dufas
Trad climber
san francisco
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Oct 28, 2004 - 02:08pm PT
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Hey Matt-so, what's the problem with being 40-ish and having not so perfect teeth, huh?
geez, talk about carpet bombing.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Marin Hot Tub Country
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Oct 29, 2004 - 06:01pm PT
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Hey matt -- this has been fun. I like how you keep saying "you started it"...
So Matt, for someone who had no beef with me, and only saw me a couple times
a year, you certainly invested a lot of energy stalking me with the following anonymous posts:
Remember these? (from the good ol' pre-registration days)
Notice the date? That was long before I called you on bad-mouthing me
(to someone who unbeknownst to you happened to be my main climbing partner -- oops)
Here's the thread the anonymous snipe above appeared in.
And how about this:
(from this thread)
And the next day, and with yet a another user name, you posted this:
(from this thread
And then, 2 minutes later, in a different thread...
(from this thread)
3 minutes later... with yet another user-name, the stalker known as Matt
posts again in a different thread:
(from this thread)
So it's obvious you seemed to have thought about me a lot,
and you were posting anonymously like a {"edited to be nice"} ...LOL
Looks like you really have a secret crush on me or something.
What a weirdo!
More recently, I have requested rather diplomatically that people chill on the political posts.
You are the one who started the name-calling.
Here's a sample from this very thread, above:
It was a response to my "no shit" comment, apparently.
That's when the "pussy" comment came in.
So just out of curiosity, what words should be used to describe someone
who takes the trouble to create a bunch of user-names to secretly heckle someone?
Obsessive Freak comes to mind...
Finally, the fact that you are worked up enough to fight is hilarious beyond words.
Not everyone is lucky enough to have their own Internet Bitch.
You should know that I wouldn't want to get caught getting physical in Berkeley.
Because in that ultra-PC town, I could be arrested for illegal Dwarf-Tossing...
Hardman Knott aka Dave Buchanan
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Marin Hot Tub Country
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Oct 29, 2004 - 07:51pm PT
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That thread was quite obviously a troll, and I'm still in Shock & Awe with how many responses it got...
"What would be wrong with someone placing a couple bolts for protection, maybe under the direction of the ASCA"....
LOL
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Michigan_Dog
Ice climber
Michigan
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Oct 29, 2004 - 11:07pm PT
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Take comfort in knowing that Dave has a long established tradition of barking like a raving dog then backing down when confronted. A Google search will show plenty of it on various internet forums. How ironic he would toss that one your way when he's been doing that for years. And then the stalking comment? What a hoot!
Dave's a wee-bit insecure, as you well know since it sounds like you have met him in person. Give the guy a break, not everyone can actually muster up the courage to talk to girls and still climb Snake Dike without falling. It's something Dave's therapist is working on with him. He's not quite there yet, but someday soon he hopes...
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Matt
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Oct 30, 2004 - 12:12am PT
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hey, that guy called you A PUSSY
are you gonna take that?
guess we grew up in different neighborhoods...
=)
EDIT
and actually, i do have an identical twin, but i am the evil one
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Michigan_Dog
Ice climber
Michigan
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Oct 30, 2004 - 12:23am PT
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hey, that guy called you A PUSSY
It came from Jody, so you could almost take it as a compliment
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Marin Hot Tub Country
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Oct 30, 2004 - 12:40am PT
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Wow, it looks like I have yet another Internet Bitch -- someone has created an account
(no posting history) for the sole purpose of acting like a cowardly pussy -- by flaming anonymously.
Are you Matt's butt-boy? He seems to have taught you well...
LOL!
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Michigan_Dog
Ice climber
Michigan
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Oct 30, 2004 - 01:00am PT
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Wow, it looks like I have yet another Internet Bitch -- someone who creates an account
(no posting history) for the sole purpose of acting like a cowardly pussy -- by flaming anonymously.
Are you Matt's butt-boy? He seems to have taught you well...
LOL!
I seriously worship the ground you walk on Dave, not Matt. I was drawn to this post from powers well beyond my control, that and my burning desire to have your love child. I don't know Matt, and most likely never will meet him. But you, oh I do only hope we can meet some day and have what Matt and his J-tree woman had, if only for a few minutes.
For myself to be privelaged to touch the sweet man flesh that has sent 12C and climbed Snake Dike, even if it was with falls, just might be too much for me to handle. But a guy can dream? It's too bad you're all the way up in Marin. Come back to the Castro Dave, we miss you.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Marin Hot Tub Country
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Oct 30, 2004 - 01:09am PT
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Yawn..... I think I'm getting sleepy.
Anonymous, unimaginative trolls are especially tedious.
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Michigan_Dog
Ice climber
Michigan
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Oct 30, 2004 - 01:12am PT
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Yawn..... I think I'm getting sleepy.
Good, get your rest. You have a hard day of playing internet superhero again on tap for tomorrow.
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Gum Bee
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Oct 31, 2004 - 04:06pm PT
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Hey hardguy
Seems to me you are in a battle of wits with un-armed soldiers.
See ya at the pub.... I owe you a beer for this one.
thank you for the giggle
score:
hardguy :47
all others: 0
: Þ
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Michigan_Dog
Ice climber
Michigan
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Oct 31, 2004 - 08:21pm PT
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So now the question is:
Between Matt and Dave, who will have the stomach to make the most alts to support their own stance?
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NeverSurfaced
Trad climber
Someplace F*#ked!
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Oct 31, 2004 - 08:44pm PT
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From the long-lost Bush family photo album.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Verrrry interesting....
Hardman Knott writes,
"Wow, it looks like I have yet another Internet Bitch -- someone has created an account (no posting history) for the sole purpose of acting like a cowardly pussy -- by flaming anonymously."
There is no credibility without identity. Dave Buchanan is real. Love him or hate him, he is who he is.
But something doesn't smell right with this Matt. Even pussies smell good [sort of], but Matt's whole persona reeks of cowardice. Who is he, really?
Then again, who cares? It's not like he'll ever walk up to me and introduce himself. His kind never does.
{yawn} Yet another nameless, faceless and dickless detractor.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I don't get it Pete. It's not like Matt posts under an alias. His name's Matt, his email is real, his posting is pretty straightforward. I'm disappointed that he and Dave have sunk so low on this thread but we all lose our minds.
Have you lost yours?
You could look at Matt a couple ways, either as somebody who's standing up for a very serious issue whether you like it or not, or somebody who has got too wrapped up and misguided and he's not playing the way you want him too. Nothing dickless in that. But I think he has posted using at least alleged facts and arguments. Those who disagree would be well served by presenting arguments to refute him or shut up and let the thread drift down into oblivion.
This high noon crap is sick though. Have a beer guys. Agree to disagree. There are millions of worse @ssholes in the world than whoever it is that bugs you, and you can do nothing to change that.
And Pete don't forget, if Bush get's elected, he'll act like he's president of Canada too, you'll have to live with him. Once we really get going with another war, you might not even be able to visit very easily.
Indeed I have run into Matt at the crags, and he did introduce himself to me. He is short and he often has a beautiful woman with him.
Win some, lose some. Looks like he has a better build for climbing than I do anyway.
And shame on you for jumping on a bandwagon of dissing Matt just because suddenly its in fashion. There's been plenty of Pete Flaming sessions so you should know how it is when folks just take out their own aggressions on the scapegoat. (Not that you didnn't deserve some of it but that's another story)
Isn't there a saying, "People who sleep at the base of El Cap shouldn't drop haul bags", no, it's something about stones and glass houses (which admittedly I live in one too)
Peace
Karl
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