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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jan 28, 2019 - 02:36pm PT
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Reilly. that completely explains the loss of your ice ax. Thinking with the wrong head again....
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RDB
Social climber
Great Basin
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Apr 13, 2019 - 10:08pm PT
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"probably solve the OP question in 7 seconds flat!"
Sorry Roy, I'm late to the party as usual. I'd guess that the red shafted tool is a rebuild. But it is only a guess. Other thought is it might be a very early effort at a fiber glass shaft. As you guys already noted I think the spike is the key to the real answer. I know that spike just can't place it at the moment. (may be later Camp?) Never seen that shaft/spike on a Camp/Interalp/Chouinard tool. I do have a near new blue fiber glass Camp "Zero" hammer like Fitz's/Tar's (and the other 3 early blue shaft/rubber sleeve shown) sitting here. Same head as the red one but no Chouinard roll mark. But clearly a Zero hammer. Mine does have the thick black rubber sleeve removed. Shaft is hollow. So just guessing on the red one myself.
I gave much of my ice climbing collection to Gary Neptune. He was working on a new display for some of it. I likely buried him in useless gear :) Been selling the best of it, as the $1400 piolet yesterday attests.
Moved back to Idaho, not far from Fritz, and raising horses again. House is twice as big but my office 1/2 as small ;-) Something had to go. Hope others get to enjoy my collection as much as I did. Any one interested in a nice sized mountaineering library?
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RDB
Social climber
Great Basin
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Apr 13, 2019 - 10:18pm PT
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Hey Reilly!
Why did I give that bamboo Coonyard to that Roossian in a fit of largesse? 😫
Until recently I'd forgotten I gave one of my last Zero axes to a kid for his 21st birthday. Even then (1980) I knew I'd had one too many beers. Then yesterday a buddy reminded me I traded a new Zero hammer and cash for a Barracuda bitd.
I climbed a lot of ice with a Zero and a Chacal. Loved that pair. Chacal and Barracuda I liked even more.
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RDB
Social climber
Great Basin
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Apr 13, 2019 - 10:32pm PT
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Sorry, one more answer if I missed the question.
Rexilon..laminated wood (hickory) and solid. Weight is just a bit heavier than bamboo. Ash was lighter generally. But that depended o nthe quality of the ash. American hickory (very early axes) was slightly heavier as well.
Early fiberglass/carbon fiber versions? At least 3 versions shown in this thread and all hollow. Some (Camp) had aluminum liners (made them heavier). Chouinard's later version is all glass and feels more like a wood axe in hand. Vibration in the shaft was terrible on the ice by comparison how ever.
Aluminum was wrapped with glass/carbon to kill the vibrations.
Interesting the Chacal was never bothered by that issue....nor are the newest aluminum shafted tools.
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