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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Jan 17, 2018 - 08:22pm PT
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I hold the opposite view Limpo... I love the mind boggling diversity of my adopted home of California. I love the dichotomy of if all too. It’s so friggin amazing from geology and geopraphy to ecosystems and the vast span of people and cultures.
I really dig going from San Francisco boardroom out through the delta to central valley farm town, 49er country, honest to god mountains of the gentle wilderness to the high desert beyond.
I’ve been all over this state top to bottom left to right rich to poor - and I am just not going to let yall rip my playground apart like this. So the motion is DENIED!
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You Californios are just going to have to learn to live together... again.
DMT
I can understand that point of view, and I also enjoy the diversity of CA that makes it geographically awesome. What I'm saying is to look out the window when driving through most of New California and think about the fact that most of those people don't get what they vote for, but are instead told how to operate by people that live in a very different area.
For much of rural CA it's like being told, "keep quiet, we know what's good for you so just have to do what we say."
Understandable that they'd want to make their own state so they get a say.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jan 17, 2018 - 08:52pm PT
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delete this thread. This is the kind of sh#t the Russian intelligence apparatus would love to see.
We're all Californians.
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Bruce Morris
Trad climber
Soulsbyville, California
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Jan 17, 2018 - 08:53pm PT
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I have also come to believe the next wave of industrialization will be mobile enough to bring in smaller scale money to heartland communities, if all parties concerned are willing to bust their asses to make it happen.
I doubt the last part of that statement very much, Dingus. People in Sonora-Soulsbyville-Twain Harte are fundamentally lazy and don't want anything to change very much at all. Then, what do they have to bitch about?
That's why Tuolumne County needs a Sandhill Boulevard with millions of venture capital and a big school to turn out programmers and engineers. Bulldoze this place! Make it into a 24/7 party zone and wreck it's rural character for good.
But seriously I think you have a good point about diversified high-tech remote industries moving into the area. There used to be the Pine Mountain Group in Groveland ('Grovel Town') but I think it got bought out by an outfit in Orange County. Pine Mountain used to be one of the best network diagnostic places going with seminars and an library of diagnostic scripts. They'd come out of Lockheed-Martin and could solve any network problem. Someone must have come along and bought and transported their knowledge base down to LA.
I did just tell Gavin Newsom about bringing some low-impact high-tech into the Cali foothills. What about a VC strip in Modesto? All they need is MONEY. Maybe we could all get together and pay Gavin off to see things our way?
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Ballo
Trad climber
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Jan 17, 2018 - 09:34pm PT
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the next wave of industrialization will be mobile enough to
make sure Indians get all yer jorbs
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Bruce Morris
Trad climber
Soulsbyville, California
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Jan 17, 2018 - 11:34pm PT
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make sure Indians get all yer jorbs
They already have all the good jobs in Tuolumne County at the Indian casinos.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Jan 18, 2018 - 12:26pm PT
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Not sure what you mean by "fundamentally," but they do vote differently.
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Bruce Morris
Trad climber
Soulsbyville, California
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Jan 18, 2018 - 03:40pm PT
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I just love the rednecks, haters, speed freaks, tweakers and homeless up in the foothills. Are they really worth saving?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2018 - 03:43pm PT
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New Idaho would be more like it...
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Gregory Crouch
Social climber
Walnut Creek, California
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Jan 19, 2018 - 08:50am PT
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I'm with Dingus.
I assume everybody realizes this is a debate about ten years younger than the state.
By the `60s, people in the rest of California were squealing about "the Bay." (Note: that's the 1860s, before even Donini can remember.)
Los Angeles got added after the earthquake. (Jim can't remember that one, either.)
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Jan 19, 2018 - 02:25pm PT
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They should make the border on fault lines...
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