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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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who is going to enforce these new rules about what constitutes a climbing thread. CMac wouldn't want to waste his time. A volunteer, any volunteer, ends up making decisions that will piss someone off. One of the things I find really appealing about this forum is lack of moderators. Once in a while someone who deserves it gets whacked. Works for me.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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This thread reminds me of an old joke.
A guy comes home from work and says:
"Hi honey, how was your day?"
His wife replies:
"Oh honey, I had the most obscene phone call. This pervert went on for two hours saying the most disgusting things."
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Climbers are people too. Well, most of them.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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From the OP My liberty is now encroached upon by others; splitting allows for all to enjoy their liberty to explore whatever topic they like.
Hey look. It's another political thread ;-)
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Dingus for Supreme Moderator Overlord!
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Freebird
I may be a washed up neverwasbeen but I have always considered climbers and adventure sports types to be at the fringe of society, unwilling to be molded and conformed. Most of the climbers I have known were usually unwilling or unable to allow themselves to be boxed into a societal role by others, or found turmoil and struggle with the expectations from others at school and work, and with family, girlfriends/boyfriends, and spouses.
The key being that we (at least myself) do not like to be controlled by society and others, some of whom appear to have the least amount of control over their own social situations or emotions.
The idea of controlling the postings, OT subject matter, and quality of climbing and trip reports on a climbing website forum seems overly 'controlling' for persons who read and post from this demographic.
Personally, I fell onto this website forum at the behest of friend who told me about some postings and subject matter that related directly to me. I found ST to be informative and entertaining, connected with old friends and acquaintances, and enjoyed posting some climbing content along with exhibiting some of my goofy stories and poetry which have only come to me over the past several years.
Most of what I post are poems and some opinions, some lurking and stupid comments, with an occasional memoir or story on my late climber brother or one of my own climbing memories.
If I thought I were going to have my posts directed to one kind of topic thread or another by a moderator, I would cringe and take umbrage, and be less likely to post at all. I abhor the thought of such regulation.
-bushman
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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First of all it shouldn't be THAT hard to read the thread titles and only click on climbing threads. Unless it's your will power that's a problem.
The problem is that OT threads (especially politics and gear reviews) cause the climbing posts to get lost.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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lol
it is incredibly strenuous to click that 'previous posts' button.
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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As long as we're putting forth suggestions unlikely to be heeded, how about this:
Neither threads nor posts can be deleted
After posting, you have 5 minutes to edit (which could include replacing all text with "Never mind"). After 5 minutes, what you posted stays. If you repent of what you said, you add another post - or thread - admitting you were wrong, apologizing, etc. But you don't get to revise history long after the fact.
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overwatch
climber
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Nah, just leave it. If you don't like it, there you are not liking it.
Edit:
A successful, although stupid, troll.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Rockclimbing.com????? Now THAT's funny.
Here's about the latest post from Rockclimbing.com, all credit to the author, iknowfear (thanks, hope you don't mind):
Users: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. it's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Owner: No, no, it's uh,...it's resting.
Users: Look, matey, I know a dead website when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Owner: No no it's not dead, it's, its restin! Remarkable site, the rc.com, idn'it, ay? Beautiful threads and databases!
Users: The threads and databases don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
Owner: Nononono, no, no! it's resting!
Users: All right then, if it's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouting at the site) 'Ello, Mister rc.com website! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle picture for you if you show...
(owner hits the site)
Owner: There, it moved!
Users: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the site!
Owner: I never!!
Users: Yes, you did!
Owner: I never, never did anything...
Users: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO POLLY!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!
Users: Now that's what I call a dead website.
Owner: No, no.....No, it's stunned!
Users: STUNNED?!?
Owner: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! climbing sites stun easily, major.
Users: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That website is definitely deceased, and when you purchased it not 'alf a year ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged redesign.
Users: Look, I took the liberty of examining that website when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that the threads had been NAILED there.
[.]
...Users: it's not pinin'! it's passed on! This site is no more! It has ceased to be! it's expired and gone to meet its maker! it's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolic processes are now 'istory! it's off the twig! it's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-SITE!!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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the development and maintenance of the ST website, and the Forum in particular, has to have very low overhead... STForum probably isn't a big money maker...
so the only sort of low-impact mod would be to split the Forum, but without a means of moderating what thread goes where the subForums just tend to look the same...
my feeling is that allowing the STForum members to select their own views would work best... and as far as I know, it's already a possibility without having to alter anything at all, by using third-party apps, or the low tech solution, just don't click on those threads.
anything more involved is a non-starter
if you want to see "climbing" related posts, go to the search bar and type "climb," it will turn up the most recent posts with that word somewhere in the post... a good start.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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We're making this awfully difficult; needlessly in my opinion. We already have trip reports, route beta, gear reviews, etc. as tabs. Each thread in those subsections of the forum is self-selected by the original poster.
How hard would it be to add another tab for "climbing?" The OP simply denominates the thread as "climbing," the way we do for trip reports, and away we go. Original sin will keep the classification from perfection, but it would make it easier for those who wish to escape my opinions, or those of my opinionated colleagues on this forum, on topics clearly unrelated to climbing.
Otherwise, they're forced to go through the tremendous effort that Ed suggests, or else overuse their hand and fingers manipulating the mouse.
John
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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who is going to enforce these new rules about what constitutes a climbing thread.
Me. I'll do it.
DMT
OK, quick vetting process.
Where would you place the following thread, Climbing, or Other?
 Crankloon Central
Best. Beer. Ever.
Worst poster on SuperTopo
Brace yourselves Moab... they're coming....
You to can stay at Majestic Yosemite Hotel
Some might be obvious/easy. Others, not so much.
But it's funny this comes up now, when the front page has more climbing content than just about any time I can remember.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Or a HIDE THREAD button...
That's the direction I'd like to see. Don't change to whole forum, just put more control in the hands of each user for what they'd like to see.
I'd add a HIDE MEMBER button too.
But both these take time to implement so for a free forum that doesn't make much/any money I don't see it happening.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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This is the most unattractive and repellent website in climbing:
www.rockclimbing.com/forum/
I left the site several years ago and won't return. By contrast ST displays all its threads instantly and one can easily pick and choose. Just my opinion.
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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All I care about is: On which side does the "birds" thread lie.
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