People? Women!?!! (OT)

had the AMA not been so set against "single payer" we'd have had the system decades ago...

and it is irony that the AMA's opposition essentially ceded health care control to the insurance companies

The conservative knows that in order to constrain greed, we need a system that does it naturally. Fortunately, we have just such a system: The free market. Corporations and governments may both be inclined towards greed, but the market naturally punishes corporations for indulging. How long would Wal-Mart stay in business if it made a habit of screwing its customers, priced its goods exorbitantly or really abused its employees the way leftists want you to believe that it does? Not long. Everybody would go to Target. The market naturally restrains greed. Government, on the other hand, protects greed. Over 1000 vets died so that government workers in Phoenix could get their bonus checks. Nobody went to jail, nobody has even lost their job. Can you honestly say that a corporation that callously killed 1000 folks would walk away unscathed? Of course not. That corporation would be out of business (spare me cigarette companies please, they provide something that an individual uses to kill himself. Different situation altogether. Guns too), people would stop patronizing them. Let me say it again: The market naturally restrains greed. Progs believe the opposite.

When it's single payer we'll all be in the same boat as the vets at the VA.

Dave, when is the last time YOU bought morning after pills, a box of tampons, had babies come out of your vagina or terminate a pregnancy?

When was the last time you had a 15 year old student (your best writer) sign out due to pregnancy, and go off to the pregnancy continuation high school that our tax dollars pay for?

The SCOTUS ruling was a constitutionally sound ruling. Freedoms guaranteed by the constitution ,which certain political forces don't value , such as religious freedom,are under assault by those forces.

So let me get this right. Female Hobby Lobby employees are now
forbidden from driving to a drugstore and buying their own
morning after pills? While their H.L. medical insurance still covers
all other types of birth control.

Sully, do you really ,really believe that a government program , funded by your fellow citizens will solve the problems you listed?

The Contraceptive Choice Project, conducted by researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, Mo., enrolled 9,256 women and teens from 14 to 45 years of age in the St. Louis area between 2007 and 2011. The participants were all uninsured, low-income, or otherwise determined to be at risk for unintended pregnancy.

Each woman was given a choice of birth control methods, ranging from long-term and more expensive contraceptive devices, such as the intrauterine device (IUD) or an implant, to more common methods, including birth control pills, the ring and the patch. Since price wasn't an issue, about 75 percent of participants chose the implanted methods, which are more effective than short-term methods.

The results were significant: The annual birth rate among teenage girls in the study from 2008 to 2010 was only 6.3 per 1,000, compared to the much higher U.S. rate of 34.3 per 1,000 for girls the same age. And the abortion rates among among all participants ranged from 4.4 to 7.5 per 1,000 women over the two-year period, substantially lower than the national rate of 19.6 abortions per 1,000 women in 2008.