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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 1, 2014 - 06:23am PT
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A thread for women's rights and stuff like that. (Post positivity too!)
Doesn't fit into any existing thread.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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SCOTUS making decisions based on fairy tales. Unreal.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Typical. In Japan the scenario was that birth control pills were not available until a few years ago, the government's argument being that they were unsafe. Abortion however was, and the average Japanese woman had had almost three of those. The difference? Doctors made a lot more money off of abortions than pills.
Then Viagra came along and that was cleared by the government in less than six months.Even in Japan, that was a little too much hypocrisy, so after women's organizations protested, the government finally allowed birth control pills.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Religion's fine as long as it doesn't supercede federal law.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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No, place the blame on male chauvinism where it belongs. Religion had absolutely nothing to do with the stance of the Japanese government.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Bull. Maybe there, but here it carries tremendous influence.
As to women, my better half is all for equality. And we'll be raising our daughter to be strong and independent.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Religious people suck.
Yup. And they're more dangerous than other religious freaks like the Taliban, because they're already in this country and they're already influencing policy.
Yes, christians are more dangerous than crazy fanatical islamists, and christians constitute a very real threat to America.
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Probably has something to do with $$ too DMT
Certainly those justices were paid for, to a large extent, by corporations.
Fcuk a partisan Supreme Court
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jonnyrig
climber
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It has its place. That place is not telling everyone else how to live.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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When can we start discriminating against religious people based on the fact that they are clearly insane. Imaginary friends? Gods book of lies? Fancy creation mythology? Authoritarian rule books written by angry slavers. C'mon! Any set of religious beliefs is a crazy fantasy if viewed with discrimination. Willfull ignorance and anti-intellect as a governing theology! C'mon!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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On the other hand, the religion of the Left is a pervasive government that controls our lives and thoughts.
You're living in a different millenium. Maybe that's how it used to be last century, but nowadays...
The Left is champion of individual freedom and individual rights.
The Right is the voice of fanatical religious ideology and the substitution of religious laws for Constitutional rights.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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On the other hand, the religion of the Left is a pervasive government that controls our lives and thoughts.
It would be cool if that were true!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Regardless of your ideology or political preferences....
The bottom line is that supreme court now permits discrimination against women. Men do not suffer at all from the ruling.
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jonnyrig
climber
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What if said corporation doesnt believe in any healthcare at all? Then what? Do we protect that too?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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To start with the statements on the op are completely at odds with the facts.
First of all, Hobby Lobby (really the family that owns it) had no problem with birth control coverage, it was paying for abortions that they objected too. (both surgical and chemically induced)
Second, the courts made the distinction between a closely held corporation, that really is no different than a sole proprietorship and a publicly traded company.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Slippery slope? Nah... doesn't exist, per other thread topics. So says the liberal left. Try not to use that argument here, eh? Thanks.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Oh goody! Next time you (or anyone else) tells me there's no slippery slope in gun control, can I point back at your post above and assure them it does, indeed, exist just as much as the slippery slope in healthcare denial that you're proclaiming here? That would just be ubercool!
Now, carry on with telling me how my logic is faulty and i'm an idiot. You know you want to.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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To start with the statements on the op are completely at odds with the facts.
First of all, Hobby Lobby (really the family that owns it) had no problem with birth control coverage, it was paying for abortions that they objected too. (both surgical and chemically induced)
Second, the courts made the distinction between a closely held corporation, that really is no different than a sole proprietorship and a publicly traded company.
So, the taxpayers end up picking up the slack. If that's the case, then we need universal health care.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Oh right, I forgot. We were bellyaching over the trumping of equality and women's rights by fanatical religios BS, in favor of corporate america.
Weren't we also supposed to be celebrating the strong woman role model or something? My buddy's wife just got her CA CCW, and my better half plans on joining her group of girls she meets for coffee to do the same here in NV. Now, my girl is often accused of being super green/liberal, but I guess people can learn to compromise. That, and you could say they're treading upon a world mostly comprised of old conservative white guys. Yay girl power!
Except we shouldn't compromise to allow discrimination based on individual religious beliefs when it comes to corporate conduct.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Condoms fail, and plenty of people are allergic to latex. But then, abstinence shouldn't be such a big deal either, right?
What next, you going to tell us Hobby Lobby can deny employment of single unwed mothers because they think that's immoral too?
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