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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:02am PT
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Why does it matter? I dunno. Because facts matter?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:02am PT
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Donald, you need to realize that you are on the wrong side of nearly every social issue. What are you going to do when you get to the pearly gates and God is a pot smoking 60s styled liberal?
My advice? repent dude
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:04am PT
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Why does it matter? I dunno. Because facts matter?
why are all dogs gay but only 4% humans?
I have my doubts when it comes to that 4%
unless perhaps you mean exclusively
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:07am PT
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being gay happens but that does not mean being gay is normal from a biological scientific standpoint. It is unnatural, why is that hard to believe?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:07am PT
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^^^^
Dogs
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:14am PT
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I wrote you a little tribute up there Donald.
No comment?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:23am PT
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Still ignoring my tribute Donald?
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Rolfr
Social climber
North Vancouver BC
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:24am PT
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Bruce, what a great clip. One of my all time favorite movies! "The Producers"
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:28am PT
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Dogs are gay, ergo dudes are gay. Really? Even accepting the premise, which is extremely dubious, that's the argument you're making?
Seriously. I'm trying to understand your argument. It sounds a lot like this:
Dogs are (more or less) gay.
Humans are like dogs.
Therefore, humans are gay.
Is that what you're saying? That's idiotic.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:30am PT
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Donald you ignore Christ.
Which apparently made no impression on you.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:37am PT
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I am an agnostic.
Jesus Christ is one of the last figures in history I would choose to ignore.
Not only do you play the part of an idiot.
You are a Liar about stupid shit
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:40am PT
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MS55401
Your the one who said
eing gay happens but that does not mean being gay is normal from a biological scientific standpoint. It is unnatural
Point 1. normal from a biologic stand point. ergo my reply DOGS
Point 2 It is unnatural... WTH does that mean? The only things that are unnatural are thing that have never happened in the history of the universe.. ie .. nature
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:40am PT
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I think having openly gay members would be a huge improvement over the rampant repressed homosexuality they currently foster. But the BSA sucks, regardless.
Same could be said of ST...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 31, 2013 - 12:42am PT
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ahhh sh#t.. that was Q-Ball who said that.. ahh well
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jan 31, 2013 - 01:15am PT
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LDS church is largest sponsor of the Boy Scouts in the U.S.
Also the largest contributor to anti-gay marriage campaigns.
Asshole f*#ks.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 31, 2013 - 01:45am PT
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hey there say, all...
as to anastasia's quotes:
It's a yes and no thing for me...
I think each troop should have it's own policies. Especially since many Churches run scout troops. I think a troop being forced to accept someone they naturally would not isn't a good thing either. I would hate to see a gay boy put in a place where people will try to "cure" him, not really accept him. It can become a very hostile environment, etc. which doesn't do anyone any favors. Policies do not change behavior...
Yet I think if there is a troop opened minded enough to handle such a child, it can work. Why the heck not... I just think it's important for a parent of a gay child to be careful what they ask from others, especially folks that are not willing. Forcing folks creates new levels of hostility that will not help anyone grow, evolve, etc. Now if a parent of a gay child will take it on themselves to create a troop that is good for their child, willing to go the extra mile and find other children that wouldn't mind it... Then I agree. Especially since the troop is designed for just that in the first place, isn't bending others who are not ready for such an evolution. :)
i always just think of groups and organizations, the same as this, how she mentioned... personal take, on what you want to do with folks, that enjoy doing things where you have stuff in common:
so if you don't feel part of one group, just find another, where the comaraderie is...
but then, i tend to see things in a match-match type way...
when one thing does not match what we want to do, find another match that works... and there, you fourish...
to me, it is just 'groups' where you learn stuff...
so i never thought much more on it...
now:
it if was schools, etc, or such, refusing others that have a differet
preference on what they do, as to who the person is:
that is wrong as, schools, and public things, are for all...
groups just seem to be that... seperate 'things' to help folks do
stuff they like, in a familiar or easy to 'break from the homefront'
type place...
telling folks how to change and run a group, can get
the group into a whole public function, and then folks
may as well, just go to public camps and function, etc...
or as to whatever the club is...
i reckon that some folks need these groups, more than others...
me and my kids, we just did everything public...
no one was excluded, or felt excluded then, and folks
had open learning as to how the world is full of many
various kinds of folks, race, inner-feelings, religion/non religions,
polictical, etc...
NOTE:
the only groups we ran into were perhaps the dance group
that i had at the recreation hall, but then THAT was a group
open to the public, there too...
and it was 'labled for woman', see--it was for ladies, as, many of the ladies would have been feeling unable to learn to dance, if there were men there, and it would have been
unfair to force the ladies to do that...
men, had their own classes... but woman, whether some where gay or not,
were still comfortable with seeing each other learn to dance, than seeing men--more of a 'men make fun of woman' type thing...
i can see the whole thing from any views, sure makes someone
upset though, no matter which way changes go... :(
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 01:57am PT
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Growing up my brother thought "missionary style" meant butt sex, because that's the only way missionaries could have sex.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 01:58am PT
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Good post, Neebee...always pleasant to read your sober posts in the late hours.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:18am PT
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I get the feeling neebee doesn't quite understand how pervasive this "group" is in Utar and Idaho... and Jennie is beyond brainwashed. Simply joining another group doesn't always work. When I was growing up I got demerits IN SCHOOL for sh#t my dad said during a Saturday soccer match. He was the coach and he said he was "pissed off" at our lackluster performance. The demerits were ridiculous, the fact that none of the other kids would talk to me was pretty intimidating for a 6 year old.
It is no wonder I turned to a life of drugs and loose women at age 8.
Any group with a large following of blind idiots will attract morally corrupt people who can hide in the shadows amongst the idiots and take advantage of the undeserved respect the organization has garnered. Add to that repressed homosexual desires/curiosities, and you are putting innocent children at great risk. I would MUCH rather have my kids spend time with my openly gay friends than a bunch of brainwashed Morons.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Jan 31, 2013 - 02:39am PT
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I get the feeling neebee doesn't quite understand how pervasive this "group" is in Utar and Idaho... and Jennie is beyond brainwashed.
Whatever you say, Wes...
Perhaps you should write a book delineating your tortured existence and who’s to blame. This is difficult to say without feeling harsh and judgmental, but here goes--self-pity is an extreme form of egocentrism, and usually a result of a very selfish perspective of the world. People who regularly engage in self-pity are miserable, and they tend to make others quite unhappy, too.
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