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rwedgee
Ice climber
canyon country,CA
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Dec 11, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
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Ron, congrats on the snowcock !! I'm an avid chukar hunter and I've been thinking about heading to the Rubys sometime.
Not sure if these are real or photoshopped but that's a hell of a big dog. I wouldn't want to be out at night and have a pack of them after me.
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Dec 11, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
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A lot of the comments from the pro-huntuing crowd remind me of the famous Vietnam quote; "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it." The absurdity of both is breathtaking and lost on the individuals making the comments.
Now, please carry on. The only good wolf is a dead wolf. They have no place in nature. ;)
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
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It's just that great brave white hunters who are already drowning in excess and consumption hold a special place in the cowards hall of fame
+1
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
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Silver...what do you mean by Non-native wolfs??
"Before the arrival of European settlers, wolves ranged widely across the continent, from coast to coast and from Canada to Mexico. Two species are found in North America, the gray wolf, with its various subspecies, and the red wolf. Historically, gray wolves were found throughout most of the United States, Canada, and Mexico, with red wolves primarily inhabiting the southeastern United States."
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
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Seems like a shame to have this thread without Rokjox in the house
Peace
karl
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
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Too many predators is just as bad as too few. Basic ecology science.
We hire professionals to determine if a population is best served by hunting and by how much.
Supposed nature lovers who are to uneducated to understand this or too emotional to accept this fact are doing the very natural world they supposedly love a great disservice by advocating for overpopulation by any species. From mosquitoes to wild horse to wolves.
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frank wyman
Mountain climber
helena montana
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:38pm PT
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Now lets here something from someone who ACTUALLY lives in Montana... We shoot wolfs because if you don"t...They will HUFF and PUFF and blow your house down...Seen it happen..
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:41pm PT
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Riley, I gotta back Ron on the fact that much safari meat goes to locals.
I donated thousands to African conservation, even giving some guns to game scouts.
Poaching is a serious problem, and as Ron touched on, the real trick is getting locals to see the animals as more valuable alive. BTW some of the most skilled game scouts are recruited ex-poachers, but then they have no ACLU and poachers caught with a bad attitude are dealt with, shall we say, harshly.
Another part of the problem is that the main market for ivory is a country we just happen to owe a bit of money too,..
I am pro-wolf and pro-hunting though I have done little.
But I just picked up a nice field grade over and under, and if someone else cleans, I'll shoot and cook.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:43pm PT
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So that is where all that wind in Montana comes from?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 11, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
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Wait a sec, "the wild horses all tamed"???
Who brought the phucking horses here anyway?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:08pm PT
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Wrong Riley.
Hippos are herbivores and, like rhino, their meat is delicious and considered highly valuable.
Rhinos are protected, but when a problem animal is destroyed it can feed 3 villages.
There is a huge market in Africa for "bush meat".
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:17pm PT
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Won't be long before instead of joining a conga line on Everest the cool thing will be to book a trip from the DOW Travel Agency.
Dogs Of War could offer poacher safaris or pirate stings, all with the usual 12 page waiver.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
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I'm not gonna read all this right now, but I'm with Tobia and the wolf and even the Steppenwolf.
Now I have felt like killing someone/something on occasion, but it's never been a wolf.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:21pm PT
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Now lets here something from someone who ACTUALLY lives in Montana... We shoot wolfs because if you don"t...They will HUFF and PUFF and blow your house down...Seen it happen..
hey! thats only with pork in the house, right?
i love to see the guys flying this flag of an extinct bear bitchin at the rocky mountain states!
i did this for rokjox....and all teh hypocrits out there.
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
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I wouldn't kill a wolf, because I wouldn't want to be killed by wolves.
Applying a little "golden rule" there. Too hippy?
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
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Riley there are tons of buffalo around
that is pure bullshit ron.
don't believe me?
take a trip to the Plains states
ask the Indians
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
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Would those be the same indians that burned down the forests to create the great plains?
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frank wyman
Mountain climber
helena montana
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Dec 11, 2012 - 04:40pm PT
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R.I.P. Little red riding hood...
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10b4me
Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
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Dec 11, 2012 - 05:34pm PT
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And origical Ron - you still haven't answered any of my original questions - you have the opportunuty to dazzle me with your african knowledge...go ahead
Riley, he is an expert on African American gangs :-)
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Dec 11, 2012 - 05:37pm PT
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you are gonna be waiting a loooooong time.
its pretty telling that the most vocal proponents of wolf kills are usually the least educated. Rokjox was a prime example, Ron A is now solidly carrying the torch.
maybe because there is no legitimate argument for killing a beloved collared wolf from yellowstone, we instead have to listen to drivel about african safari hunts, and jackasses running around in nevada shooting small birds with shotguns.
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